• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You’re assuming you owe the server rent and food money. Where are you the employer? How does that server deserve special benefits over the person at the drive through, the busser, the stocker at the grocery, etc? You’re an enabler, keeping an abusive system alive to benefit one small category at the expense of everyone else

    Granted, I tip generously as well, but that’s because I’m a pussy who doesn’t stand behind my beliefs

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      10 months ago

      but that’s because I’m a pussy who doesn’t stand behind my beliefs

      Hey, at least you’re honest about it. :)

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      The cost of paying those people at the very least minimum wage is factored into the price of your purchase, except for the busser, who shares tips with the servers.

      Because that’s not the case with servers, you tip in order for the server to get paid for performing a service for you.

      You’re an enabler, keeping an abusive system alive to benefit one small category at the expense of everyone else

      No. I’ve been clear from the start that tipping is a thing we have to do temporarily so that servers don’t starve or become homeless before we finally fix the system.

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        10 months ago

        Maybe the only way to finally fix the system is to stop tipping, so servers will go elsewhere until pay comes up. Normally I disagree with this line of thinking because it’s not easy to change careers, but serving is usually a “job” not a career. If we’re worried about minimum wage, I claim that many minimum wage jobs are easier to switch among. If a job requires special skills and knowledge, it deserves pay as such.

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          Maybe the only way to finally fix the system is to stop tipping

          No. The livelihood of servers is not an acceptable sacrifice to help servers. Defeats the point completely and there’s no guarantee that it’ll work.

          so servers will go elsewhere until pay comes up

          Go where? It’s not like they all live in areas that have even a single place that pays servers a living wage or can afford to mo.

          serving is usually a “job” not a career.

          To paraphrase Matthew Perry (RIP): could you BE anymore condescending towards people with a career in the service industry?

          I claim that many minimum wage jobs are easier to switch among

          And you’d be wrong. People work minimum wage because it was the least bad job available. Unless you’re part of a union, employers have all the power and afford none to workers.

          If a job requires special skills and knowledge, it deserves pay as such.

          Every job does. There’s no such thing as unskilled labor.