• squirmy_wormy@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    And again, ONE country set up banana republics, which were then overthrown. Anyone who isn’t them and can also buy cheap bananas separately. There are also places that were not ever banana republics who export bananas.

    This post takes a very complicated issue and distills it down to a neat little thing by misusing words and then everyone else can be like “oh I feel smart too cause that seems clever”. It’s bullshit and makes everything worse.

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      11 months ago

      Or maybe it is a reminder that these complicated legacies are still with us? Would you prefer only essays written on imperialism?

      And I have no idea how just one county setting up banana Republics has anything to do with it. Would other countries still not benefit from being able to buy artificially low cost products. At the expense of the county being exploited?

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        11 months ago

        See, I’m on board with your point there, and I would love to see how much truth there is to it. Those countries have renegotiated many agreements and some now have socialist governments which are doing quite well, despite the fuckery the US put them through.

        The post doesn’t leave room for ambiguity or nuance. It says “x is true”. That’s why it’s dumb and arguably a net bad. Quick little feel good statements for such a complicated issue just help people on the Internet feel better by liking or up voting while harming any actual progress. So fuck the person who wrote the original thing and fuck OP for spreading it.

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      11 months ago

      Sure, ONE country did it, while about 100 cheered., And queued up for deliveries.

      Everyone loves to shit on America, without acknowledging their home country’s very happy entanglement with them

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          11 months ago

          Yeah, all the shit on your shelves, defense contracts, trade regulation, financial markets, so fucking much…even gps (which came to be via cold war weapons research into ballistic missiles and location and targeting needs of the US military

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              11 months ago

              Ok sorry “literal reality, everything you can see in the global north” isn’t good enough for you.

              Here’s one for your book report:

              https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-union#:~:text=Exports were %24592.0 billion%3B imports,up 66 percent from 2012.

              The point isn’t just the literal trade though, it’s the global system that the United States has developed (through often imperial means) that many smaller countries benefit from, happily.

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                11 months ago

                I also responded to you before you did a few edits.

                Your first response was something like “all the shit on your shelves”

                And my main point here is that the original meme obviously doesn’t know what “imperialism” means.

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                  11 months ago

                  Just look up United Fruit Company and start reading:

                  The banana trade symbolizes economic imperialism, injustices in the global trade market, and the globalization of the agricultural economy. Bananas are also number four on the list of staple crops in the world and one of the biggest profit makers in supermarkets

                  It’s not just land grabs by people wearing crowns

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                    It’s a modifier on the word imperialism on purpose. You don’t hear military imperialism or diplomatic imperialism because that’s that the work means. The actual word for all of this and what happened is corporatocracy.