My data is already bought and sold by companies. But when government agencies do it, suddenly we only need to stop them. Stop this madness. It shouldn’t matter if it’s corporations or a government, why not stop the sale of people’s data?

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    Sure, but ex post facto is a thing. If people feel that this should be illegal they should write their representatives, but this headline is disingenuous.

    Actions are only illegal if they were against the law at the time they were taken. If fireworks become illegal on July 5th I can’t be found guilty for shooting them off on July 4th.

    The headline implies the NSA broke a law that does not exist, actively misleading those who read it. Shame on the “journalist” or editor that wrote it. Fabricated criticisms and grievances dilute genuine ones.

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      If people feel that this should be illegal they should write their representatives

      Waste of time and paper and you know that. Our representatives that would support us in this, and not just reply with a form letter, already know and push the issues but they are a minority in congress.

      If fireworks become illegal on July 5th I can’t be found guilty for shooting them off on July 4th.

      I’m more concerned with making sure it doesn’t happen in the future. If that means everyone being shitbags in the past get a free pass, maybe that’s worth it.

      The headline implies the NSA broke a law that does not exist,

      It sure would be nice if the PATRIOT act hadn’t fucked everyone’s opinion on privacy.

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        All of this is at best tangential.

        The NSA broke no law. The article’s headline implies that the NSA broke the law. This headline is misleading.

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          You don’t need to simp for an agency that spies on innocent civilians, you really don’t.

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            Yes, wanting factual, unbiased journalism truly is the greatest form of simping.

            You clearly didn’t read the tail end of my original comment. Fabricated grievances dilute genuine ones. This publication is crying wolf. This makes people pay less attention when news breaks about an actual fuckup.

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              So many fucking government bootlickers in this thread, starting to think you’re all sockpuppets.

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                The fact that the NSA was apparently not breaking the law is actually more infuriating and shifts focus on the need to change the law, which is opposing the government. You see, it’s always better to stick to the facts if you want to change things to the better.

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                  And I’ve found that facts have been largely irrelevant in nearly every level of social discourse for the last 15 years.

                  Especially when it comes to government.

                  I know it’s comforting to believe that isn’t the case, that humanity is at base level rational and reasonable.

                  Unfortunately this is a lie. The significant majority of humanity only follow rationality as far as it will help them achieve their goals.

                  I cannot even count any more how often I have been objectively, factually right and was dismissed for not saying it in a way that they would like, which is abandoning factual accuracy to preserve certain comfortable illusions.

                  So I’ve largely given up on wasting my time and effort to bring objective facts to people on the internet and in my government.

                  I find that the best way to change things for the better is to get out in the streets and shout a lot.

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                    For real. It’s like a living version of the principal Skinner meme.

                    “Multiple people are bringing cohesive arguments against my viewpoint? They must be sick puppets.”