• Nudding@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    They were also into owning people and women having no rights so who gives a fuck what they thought?

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      11 months ago

      Yeah I dunno where this idea of whitewashing the Founding Fathers as unequivocal good guys came from. They fucking sucked, most of them were morally bankrupt businessmen who would love Trump. These are the kinda idiots who saddled us with the Electoral College because “the general public couldn’t be trusted to choose their own leaders”, let’s stop pretending like they founded America as a stroke of genius with perfect systems.

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        11 months ago

        They fucking sucked, most of them were morally bankrupt businessmen who would love Trump.

        It’s pretty much impossible to support the idea that the Founding Fathers were “morally bankrupt”. There is no unmoving foundation of morality that remains unchanged throughout human history, and judging historical figures from over 200 years ago by today’s moral standards simply makes no sense.

        Were they immoral by today’s standards? Yes, absolutely. Where they immoral by 19th century standards? I’d say they were about average, but I’m not from that time so I couldn’t say for sure.

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          11 months ago

          You know there were people around back then who were against slavery, right? Lol

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            11 months ago

            Yes, even some of the founding fathers. For example, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, Samuel Adams, and other Framers of the Constitution were abolitionists.