• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I wasn’t going to watch it, because of the way the results are biased by the “experts”. The difference between the public voting and the jury voting are too different and unfair. I would only watch if they transitioned to viewer voting only.

    But now I have an extra reason not to.

    • EnderMB@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Eh, the jury voting was brought in because votes tend to always go to neighbouring countries, regardless of how good their act was. It’s just an imperfect system placed on top of another.

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        9 months ago

        But the jury votes also always go to the neighbors, so I don’t see how it improves it tbh.

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          9 months ago

          Now instead of regular fun and transparent circlejerks, we have weird untransparent jury votes. Great solution

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        9 months ago

        Maybe times have changed (except for a few like Greece - Cyprus). I feel the public votes are more diverse and true than the jury.

        That aside, it is no surprise that culturally, neighboring countries are indeed closer music wise that distant countries. They have different music hits in Portugal than they have in Finland

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          9 months ago

          Possibly, but there is undoubtedly a political element to it. The UK was practically dead last for over a decade, thanks to Brexit and the Iraq war, and only really clawed favour back from helping Ukraine. Frankly, the UK regularly sends shite over and uses it as a comedy show/excuse to drink, so they don’t particularly deserve anything better, but it’s hard to deny political ties when it comes to votes.

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          9 months ago

          They have actually changed the rules! Audiences choose who moves on to the final now - there are no jury votes in semis anymore. Only for the final.

          • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            Yep. That’s only half a step though. I’ll be back when they remove the jury from all votes.

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              9 months ago

              No, back to the roots, please! Only in the native language of the countries, all singers accompanied by the same orchestra, and only jury votes. It used to be a very unique competition, but now it’s just meh. Boring. Thanks, but no thanks.

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                9 months ago

                Hell, no. That gives a huge advantage to Ireland and the UK for being understandable, and even more advantages for the European languages that are often considered “beautiful” like the Latin derivatives.

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                  9 months ago

                  The competition was meant for composers and authors, not for musicians. Composition and lyrics only. Not performance, not voices or “beauty” of languages.

                  That’s why I oppose public voting, because the audience tends to be very superficial. Have a jury of experts in composition and poetry. No music business, but pure art. In the beginning, the jurors voted primarily on the sheet music, without having even seen the performance.

                  • lud@lemm.ee
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                    9 months ago

                    The competition was meant for composers and authors, not for musicians. Composition and lyrics only. Not performance, not voices or “beauty” of languages.

                    Well that’s not true anymore and I suspect most think that is a good thing.