I don’t use the Play store (don’t want a Google account) and prefer to stay away Github because Microsoft. Thanks.

Added: Thanks for the links! Unfortunately it looks like the app requires Android 8.0+ and my phone is still on Android 7. Is that inherent to Jetpack or some other part of the app technology? It would be good to not have to keep churning to the latest shiny.

    • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Ok, I installed the 0.34+hotfix .apk since lemmy.world is still running 0.17.something. I was able to connect and look around at some posts. Then I tried to add my lemmy.ml account. I entered my username and password and clicked “login” and the app immediately crashed (Android error box saying Jerboa has stopped, or something like that). I tried again and it crashed again the same way. Then I tried lemmy.world (since it is running the earlier server version) and interestingly, that let me log in.

      Comments from less than a minute of playing with it:

      • Scrolling posts around is slow and janky compared to RedReader. That might not be a fair comparison since Jerboa is pic heavy while RedReader is all text. But, a nice settings option might be to not show the pictures if that speeds it up. If the user wants to see a picture, they can click something.

      • Figuring out how to log in took some messing around. Clicking the profile and home icons said “log in first” but didn’t say how. It would be good if they provided some kind of hover or hold-down link to log in.

      • The profile “about” screen shows your username but not what instance you are logged into. It would be nice to add that. Screen space permitting, it could also be nice to display the username under the profile icon, instead of the uninformative word “Profile”.

      Thanks for the backport!!! Can I ask what the purpose of the fork is for, other than the backport? I hope that you can send your changes upstream and that upstream will accept them.

      • Azzu@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        lemmy.ml is on 0.18 so jerboa 0.34 doesn’t work with it, only 0.35. Shouldn’t crash but well…

        Honestly I’d suggest using the browser, the web interface works perfectly well on mobile. If you use Firefox or any other browser that can install UserScripts, you can add some useful ones like https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469273-lemmy-rewrite-links-to-home-instance and https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469196-gm-lemmy-newtab

        • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Thanks. Unfortunately I’m unable to login to either lemmy.world or lemmy.ml from a mobile browser (Fennic). The spinner thingie just spins forever. The only way I can post from mobile right now is with Jerboa.

          Yeah that makes sense about Jerboa 0.34 vs Lemmy 0.18. I guess I will wait for lemmy.world to update to 0.18, then update my Jerboa installation. Eventually I think I want to write my own client (it will have a web interface that looks like news.ycombinator.com) and maybe run my own Lemmy instance so my reading is not tracked.

          Also, Lemmy on a mobile browser uses a completely ridiculous amount of bandwidth. I haven’t checked how much it uses with Jerboa. But it is way more bloaty than the Reddit app I used to use was.

          • Azzu@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            You could use Firefox on mobile and use ublock origin to auto-block images & third-party content by default, then it doesn’t use almost any bandwidth. I’d imagine jerboa uses similar amounts since it also displays images without any data saver settings as I can see.

            • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              1. Lemmy under firefox uses a ton of mobile bandwidth separately from images, maybe because of javascript bloat.

              2. I’m unable to login to Lemmy from mobile firefox (the spinner just keeps spinning), though I can browse without logging in.

              I do like the idea of keeping track of read and unread posts on the client side, so maybe that capability can make it into the app. I.e. I’d like the communities screen to show me for each community, how many posts I haven’t looked at yet. I’d similarly like the community view to show me threads with unread comments. Usenet readers have had this feature since forever and it made Reddit a regression by comparison.

      • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I forked this version to play around with it, I also found I couldn’t log in to Beehaw so I made this patch specifically bc of that.

        I’m not sure whether the main developer would want to add my patches into an older version of the app, they are probably focused on improving the latest version. They are also running into a little trouble supporting multiple Android versions as it is, I wouldn’t want to inundate them with support requests from Android 5 to 7 users.

        The fact there isn’t a tutorial might make it a little difficult. The profile screen usually uses display name. Profile might be used because a longer name might not fit well on one line.

        I’m thinking of updating every now and then with new changes, when I have time and when breaking changes happen as it did with the Lemmy update.

        • Note that yeah you have to use a v35 app to login to lemmy 0.18 server like lemmy.ml, v34 works for 0.17.x and lower only. I didn’t have a chance to add both versions’ login method handling on one app.
        • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Thanks, it’s hard to tell how many users are still on Android 7 but it seems to be fewer than I had expected. Still, if supporting the old versions isn’t difficult, I hope that upstream will accept it. Meanwhile I will try to be a little more open to getting another phone.

          • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Numbers reported by Google as of May 30 2023… 92.4% have 8.0 or later. 3% have Android 7, 4% have Android 5 and 6, 0.5% still run less than 5.0.

            • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              That is pretty frightening. Lots of perfectly good phones must have gone in the trash. Maybe I will look for a used Pixel 4A.

    • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Thanks, yeah, F-droid has some kind of proxy for that too, but I just figure anything that came from the Play store is malware, so I’m reluctant to install it even indirectly.

  • chi-chan~@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    1 year ago

    Not exactly the solution you were looking for, but might help.

    You can use Lemmur (F-Droid), or Thunder (IzzyOnDroid) instead.

    Both of them require only Android 4 (or higher).

    There is the new app Lemmynade, but it’s on GitHub (they are planning to have it on F-Droid too).

    E: spacing

    • solrize@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Thanks, I noticed Lemmur while looking on F-droid for Lemmy but saw it hadn’t been updated in 10 months so figured it was out of date. I just installed it and tried it and I only see a spinner icon, including when I select Lemmy.ml in the pulldown. I can try Lemmynade if there is a .apk on Github but I think building Android apps takes more tools and stuff than I want to deal with at the moment.

      Edit: I installed Lemmynade from Github but something very similar happens, it starts with a spinner, and when I try to connect to lemmy.world (the only specific host offered), it fails with an SSL connection error (failed certificate verification). That may again be an Android version comptibility problem, if the .apk is signed with a cert from a CA that isn’t in Android 7’s root store, or something like that.

      I hope issues like this can be sorted out. RedReader installs and works on my phone without problems. Lemmy in general seems to be more “modern” than Reddit in a not-good-way, using a lot of shiny but unreliable tech, thus the constant fails logging in, posting, etc.