• hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    That’s pretty weak argument. Extreme sports professionals also do it for work, they need to get up from their beds and ride bike or climb even on those mornings they really wouldn’t want to.

    But they’ve chosen to do so.

    Someone else filming their unconventional porn for onlyfans also chooses to do that unconventional thing. There would be 100 easier ways to get paid yet they choose the extreme

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      9 months ago

      it’s exploitation…

      i don’t think that bare knuckle boxing is an ethical thing to support either, even if people sign up for it “willingly”

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        9 months ago

        It’s no exploitation any more than any other “voluntary” labor. Sex work is is work as any other, there’s people who love to do it and there’s those who do not. But you shouldn’t belittle someone else’s choice because you don’t like it

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          9 months ago

          Surely there’s a limit though, right? Like, you’re not a proponent of bum fights are you? Just because someone is agreeing to do something for money doesn’t make it inherently ethical.

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            9 months ago

            Surely there’s a limit though, right? Like, you’re not a proponent of bum fights are you?

            You mean MMA? If it’s well regulated to deal with potential issues with human rights, safety of competitors and viewers and whatnot.

            I don’t think it’s unethical for the competitors, basically ever. For people viewing, paying, betting it may be.

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        9 months ago

        Bare knuckle boxing is actually less harmful that boxing with gloves, you can’t hit as hard so you’re less likely to cause more serious long-term injuries like brain damage

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          9 months ago

          actually you heard that on joe rogan right?
          bare knuckle boxers used to get their eyes knocked out of their sockets…
          gloves are better but i also think boxing with gloves is brutal, primitive, exploitative, and immoral…
          p.s. why do you think most professional boxers are minorities?

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            9 months ago

            Haven’t ever listened to Joe Rogan, never have and never will

            I cannot find a single article mentioning anything like “eye knocked out of their sockets”, but even if that has happened in not saying serious injuries don’t happen, they’re just not as common as in gloved boxing

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            9 months ago

            p.s. why do you think most professional boxers are minorities

            I guess you mean in USA? Probably because boxing is more popular sport in low income families on big cities, and in USA that includes proportially large amount of black people because of reasons… This is purely a guess based on Hollywood knowledge, so I might be very wrong.

            Looking through the wikipedia list of current world champions, it’s not in any way dominated by “minorities” as in people with heritage from country other than for which country they’re competing.

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              9 months ago

              you’re so close… the point being:
              poorer people will do things for money, like destroy their own body… just because they “choose” that from a very limited set if choices doesn’t mean that was freely chosen

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                9 months ago

                And yet you’re so far off the mark it’s amazing, it could be argued that only the privileged can afford to not work, hence all work is inherently abusive and noone can be trusted to accept fair exchanges because the fact that you where offered something in exchange for something else inherently means you are abusing the person doing you a service… Is asking the icecream guy to give you a cone abuse because of the risk of frostbite?

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                  9 months ago

                  Is asking the icecream guy to give you a cone abuse because of the risk of frostbite

                  that is by far, the stupidest extrapolation i’ve ever read…
                  jesus fucking christ that’s so stupid…

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            9 months ago

            Lol what a wanker, have you ever put yourself through any sort of discomfort? People like doing things that aren’t healthy, get over it, have a beer, eat a pizza and jump out the window, you will see that some of it is fun, and that throughout you will remain undisturbed because noone gives a fuck. Maybe you should also give less fucks