Hi all, I’m running a small website off of a raspberry pi in my house. I have opened ports 80 and 443 and connected my IP to a domain. I’m pretty confident in my security for my raspberry pi (no password ssh, fail2ban, nginx. Shoutout networkchuck.). However, I am wondering if by exposing my ports to the raspberry pi, I am also exposing those same ports to other devices in my home network, for example, my PC. I’m just a bit unsure if port forwarding to an internal IP would also expose other internal IP’s or if it only goes to the pi. If you are able to answer or have any other comments about my setup, I would appreciate your comment. Thanks!
I have my services proxied through nginx and behind cloudflares free tier. That way I don’t have to worry about my IP getting exposed and opening myself up to DDOS/DOS attacks, which is a genuine threat if you do things that piss people off (I’m an admin on a popular minecraft server).
It’s 2023, the threat is there regardless if you piss anyone off. We’re all commodities that can/will be exploited for capitalistic gain.
I looked into nginx for minecraft, but minecraft doesn’t use http headers, so I’d have to open minecraft ports on the router. Would this alleviate that? What’s the difference between this setup and using something like a cloudflare tunnel? Obviously, there is still some reliance on Cloudflare.
You could put the pi on its own subnet. That way if it’s hacked, the rest of the network is protected. Just make sure your router admin interface doesn’t answer on that subnet.
You could put the pi on its own subnet.
This option is sometimes referred to as a ‘DMZ’ and may be supported by the router. Also look for VLAN options.
DMZ in essence means “forward ALL ports” to X. You should only DMZ a host that you know is very secure as its attack surface is significantly increased. If you need just one or two services open, best to not use DMZ
The port forward only forwards to a single device so you aren’t exposing your PC (directly anyway). Sounds like you have the pi good and secured but if you wanted to add another layer you could segment it out into a DMZ or its own VLAN. That way if something did happen with it an attacker couldn’t move laterally inside your network.
Realistically though you’re in good shape.
You are probably going to be ok unless someone really wants to hack you. The LastPass hack that exposed passwords of millions of people started from an open port in the home network of one of their engineers.
If you want to be somewhat safer, you could try something like the cloudflare tunnel thing to proxy your home network through their server.
Honestly depends on what he’s hosting… Services like shodan are constantly scanning the web and are trying to see what is actually running in the machine.
If he’s serving something that’s vulnerable and has rce it won’t take too long for him to get automatically pwned.
We’ve seen this with the hafnium Echange vulnerability and all known vulnerable public facing web apps that used log4j.
Regarding the LastPass breach, the second part of the breach was using a very outdated version of Plex. Chances are high that his home machine was already hacked by other malicious actors.
I have no idea but am interested in answers.
I’ve only exposed ports briefly for testing and got scared.
I feel a little calmer using tailscale the past few months but still feels like putting a lot of faith in someone I don’t really know I can trust.
I did this for some time. But now I don’t want any ports open at home.
That’s why I have a rented VPS that runs Traefik (a reverse proxy). This VPS has a VPN connection to my home net and is behind Cloudflare DNS. This is how I can safely expose services (even in my home net) to the Internet without forwarding any ports.
Of course those services need to have some kind of authentication.
Damn thats top security right there.
Yeah, same. I have a small server that runs Wireguard and I only expose services on any device on the local Wireguard interface. That way I can safely access stuff in my home net from anywhere.
If you’ve set up a VPN to your home net then why not run that VPN from the devices you use to access the reverse proxy? With wireguard at least this is quite easy.
That way you don’t have to expose anything you just run a VPN with the reverse proxy in it.
My setup is
Internet <—> Reverse Proxy (on VPS) <—> OpenVPN Server (on VPS) <—> VPN Client (home router) <—> local stuff…
I don’t understand what you mean? Generally I don’t like to require a VPN to access stuff. My use case is, when I’m away I’d like to be able to access things from e.g. a public device, a friends laptop, etc. That’s why I’m not using a VPN to access things.
The VPN site-to-site connection is also responsible to make network shares available on my Nextcloud instance and other services.
Currently I’m rethinking the VPN, but I don’t think I can ditch it in favor if e.g. Cloudflare Access tunnels (too unflexible, limited compatibility, or too much hassle to keep everything configured correctly).
Also, I don’t use VPN to authorize requests. I use Authelia to authorize useres with Free-IPA as directory in the backend.
I know, this might be overkill for my “simple” use cases, but I like to play around with these kind of enterprise-adjacent solutions.
If you port forward to your Pi, only your Pi will be exposed. But, if your Pi gets pwned, it can in turn attack anything next to it. Safest is to isolate the Pi on it’s own subnet or a DMZ if your router has the functionality.
Of note, many home ISPs block standard server ports like 80 and 443. You might need to use non standard ports like 8080 and 8443
You’ll be ok as long as whatever software you’re running that is listening to 80 and 443 never has an exploitable vulnerability, if it does… you may be in trouble depending on the vulnerability.
Or be careful of the service on the other side of your (I assume) reverse proxy, should it have a vulnerability you may still be in trouble depending on the setup of the reverse proxy and what it’s config is.
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