He’s the leftwing outsider who nearly became the Democrats’ candidate for president - twice. As his position on the Israel-Gaza war threatens to upset his support, the veteran senator says he’s tired but determined to fight the return of that ‘ bitter, humiliated man’
  • NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world
    2379·
    9 months ago

    In the past few elections, voting feels more like a hostage situation than exercising my right to making a “choice”. This country is absolutely fucked if Trump is elected again.

    • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
      514·
      9 months ago

      Easier said than done I know but if Trump wins my wife and I would strongly consider emigrating to another country. There’s only so much insanity one can take before needlessly going down with the ship. And if the calculus is that that my kids will have better prospects elsewhere, then so be it.

      • Doc Avid Mornington@midwest.socialEnglish
        251·
        9 months ago

        Fascism is on the rise globally. If enough decent people leave the US, we will fall into a fascist regime, and it will be the beginning of World War Three, with the US leading the equivalent of the Axis powers. No place in the world will be safe for you or your children. That’s the hard, honest truth.

        • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          9 months ago

          Agreed. We need to stay, and we need to fight to change the system from the inside. We can still prevent disaster at this stage.

        • Kaity@leminal.spaceEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          With my partner, friends, and I being “degenerates” and likely the first group the fascists genocide… nope, see ya, I’m out. We already are experiencing the low-tide effects of genocide and while people aren’t in droves killing us yet, there are state allowed murders seemingly popping up and medical genocides creeping into the states. It’s only a matter of time and there is effectively nothing I can do, so for the lives of my family, friends, and I, we will be doing whatever it takes to get out before it really starts.

          • Doc Avid Mornington@midwest.socialEnglish
            2·
            9 months ago

            You must do what you feel is right, of course. I disagree that it is inevitable, I disagree that there is nothing you can do, and as I said above, I doubt that, should it happen, anybody will be safe, anywhere; but I wish you and yours safety and peace, wherever you go.

      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
        11·
        9 months ago

        The problem is that without good people to stop them, evil people taking charge of the USA would radically change the entire world.

        It’s not easy, but most of us have to stay. Maybe all of us…

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
      514·
      9 months ago

      Yes. That’s the end game of our type of voting system. You get two options and both suck.

      We will get no progress until we get something like ranked choice voting.

        • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
          23·
          9 months ago

          If we can at least get 2 dems in a row in office we can begin to claw the Overton window back from the fascist side. It’d be a start at least

          • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
            261·
            9 months ago

            This is the part too may people fail to understand. The same reason Trump wasn’t able to completely dismantle democracy in 4 years is why Dems can’t check every progressive box in 4 years. The system is designed to require a decade or more of electoral success to enact real change. Otherwise you’d just have an unsustainable political yoyo.

            Even then, Trump winning one time has completely fucked the Supreme Court, and US democracy will unequivocally not survive another Trump pick. A ton of allegedly left leaning people here seem suspiciously enthusiastic about that prospect.

          • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
            52·
            9 months ago

            That’s far too naive. All that will do is entrench liberalism, which is extremely weak against fascism rising.

    • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
      23·
      9 months ago

      It always has been.

      We might be tempted to think that our Democratic heritage automatically protects us from such threats. This is a misguided reflex. In fact, the precedent set by the founders demand that we examine history to understand the deep sources of tyranny and consider the proper responses to it. - On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder (Chapter 1, Page 13)

    • Wogi@lemmy.world
      14·
      9 months ago

      I wonder if Haley is staying in the race betting that Trump won’t be able to run in November

    • fidodo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      9 months ago

      We need to focus on smaller winnable races. Unfortunately we can’t shortcut our way into the presidential candidates we want, we need to replace the establishment and build a foundation of allies to support it. I know a lot of us are in conservative areas where you can’t realistically get new candidates elected locally, but you can still volunteer for races in other parts of the country. If we can shift politics in the house and Senate the presidency will follow. It’s hard work but it’s possible.