Here you can see 2 day old post warning about the danger of not using email/captcha verification: https://lemmy.ml/post/1345031
And here are stats of lemmy platform where it shows that we gained 200 000 lemmy users in 2 days: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
Another tracking site with the same explosion in users: https://the-federation.info/platform/73
What do you think? Is it some sort of a bug or do people run bot farms?
Edit2: It’s been now 3 days and we went from 150 000 user accounts 3 days ago to 700 000 user accounts today making it 550 000+ bot accounts and counting. Almost 80% accounts on lemmy are now bots and it may end up being an very serious issue for lemmy platform once they become active.
Edit3: It’s now 4th day of the attack and the amount of accounts on lemmy has almost reached 1 200 000. Almost 90% of total userbase are now bots.
Edit 3.1: my numbers are outdated, there are currently 1 700 000 accounts which makes it even worse: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
I work in tech, this wouldn’t surprise me.
Where there are eyeballs there is spam. People even put spam in the Google Analytics referral field and that’s only ever going to get seen by the site owner.
It really says nothing about the health of the ecosystem, if it’s moderated and not filling the frontpage it’s only an issue for the server admins.
I’ve fought spammers and one alone could create these numbers in a day.
And there are people in the thread arguing that the number of bots is overblown. :/
Those are the bots, gaslighting you.
Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except me
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ELIF why anyone should care if there are bots on the fedi?
A few persons control a large amount of bots. They can manipulate upvotes, downvotes. Silence opinions they don’t like, boost the ones they support. They can flood everyone’s feed with whatever topic they like. They get to choose what is important, what people get to think about. They can harass any single user, by downvoting posts or being generally unpleasant all the time, and giving the impression that the community agrees. They can create a fake impression of consensus on any given topic.
Now that bots basically pass the Turing test, they can get you to almost never interact with a real person, but instead with machines who never actual learn, listen or change their mind. That sort of thing could erode anyone’s opinion of their fellow humans. That could make one think that there’s no possibility of common grounds with their adversaries.
Don’t underestimate the bots, they’re responsible for most of the political turmoil of the last decade.
Owners can use those bots to boost choosen posts/comments with a lot of upvotes or downvote something into oblivion if they don’t like something. Bots can be also used for spam and advertising stuff. Overall, if the bots become active the platform will be fucked as the quality of everything will go down. One problem that affects us now is that we lost a reliable way of telling how much factual users are on the platform.
Generally speaking I think people want to interact with other human beings, not bots.
Then there's the questionable morality of it. Companies can profit off bots scraping our info.
If you don't want your info scraped, don't put it online. Companies don't even need accounts to scrape data, since Lemmy is fundamentally public.
What I wonder is: what’s the motivation for these bot network attackers? Is it some script kiddie doing it for lulz? A reddit “nationalist”? Russia and China getting an early start on propaganda tools for the newer platforms?
My guess is they’ll be used to upvote/downvote things that the botnet operators are paid to promote/suppress. SEO for the fediverse basically
Jokes on them, we can’t sort by upvotes and downvotes in most cases anyway
Just delete them if they don’t appear active for a while
Don’t be surprised if you are getting flooded with spam bots after removing all the security features against spam bots, human.
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