I’ve got a potential employer who I’m trying to strong arm into giving me an offer letter by telling them this other company also wants me. Is it illegal if I create a fake document to show them?

  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, it’s safer to just say that you’ve got another offer you’re considering “just FYI” and leave it at that. You don’t owe them any proof, and it would be weird of them to ask. You’re not an employee, it’s none of their business who else is offering to hire you. You can keep it confidential “by request” or whatever.

    Faking a job offer is more impractical than it is illegal, imo. I would advise against telling lies that have paper trails. Just my two cents.

  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Illegal? Probably.* Unethical? Fuck no. Lie on your resume, lie on your housing application, lie to get a raise. The whole fucking system is trash, don’t play by their rules.

    Probably better to use a fake company though, your potential employer is probably going to google it and might even give them a call.

    *I am not a lawyer.

      • spectre [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Idk why people won’t call this “fraud” which is illegal. You aren’t allowed to just make up documentation of something that isn’t real, and use it to lie to people, especially when money is involved.

        Does that mean you shouldn’t do it? Idk/IDC tbh

        What sort of consequences would you face? Idk, depends what legal jurisdiction you’re in, but it’s gonna be a problem in most of them

        Would this even get prosecuted? Probably not criminally but idk, you’re probably liable for a civil suit if the company has all their shit in order and thought they could get damages from you.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Who knows have you looked at the US Code? No one knows what is or isn’t illegal, you need literal teams of lawyers and even then it comes down to the whims of some idiot in a robe.

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      1 year ago

      Hey! Can you lol? Let’s say, can you be the totally legit subcontractor for a prestigious German automobile company’s manufacturing arm?

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        I once asked someone how they got their first IT job and they told me they’d registered an LLC and then stated that they’d worked there for the past 7 years to get hired at an actual company.

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    1 year ago

    The dictionary definition of “fraud” is…

    wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain

    The legal definition will vary by jurisdiction and whatnot, but decent chance this qualifies.

  • Finger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Illegal? Yes. Impractical? Well, that depends on the connections you have. If you have partners or associates willing to lie on your behalf, you can accomplish a whole lot.