Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at "Web Environment Integrity", a new mechanism to prove trust on the Internet. While th...
…with Apple and Microsoft, Mutahar’s turn to take a look at “Web Environment Integrity”
i wouldn’t be so sure about it. apple strongarmed google with jpgxl support and the european union pryed open their eco system, at least for eu citizens. apple currently positioning themselves on the side of privacy advocates would lose this standing (and many customers who switched to iphone because of it). i know, they could sugarcoat this, but i have a little hope left that they will draw a line on at least the most user hostile stuff.
Honestly my hope is still that the EU intervenes, which I consider to be around 50% given they’re a generally a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to regulations.
When Apple becomes my last hope, I’ll know times are bad. Having said that, it’s one of the parties that may actually oppose. The other big guy that may have some power in this, Microsoft, is probably more likely to adapt this catastrophe of an idea.
Apple already shipped attestation. It’s in Safari in both desktop and mobile. Unfortunately. It’s just going to take a couple big players to make this a blight everywhere. Netflix implementing this might do it. Google’s main sites would work.
the EU can be really schizo when it comes to stuff like that, that’s true. i don’t trust them. and apple as a last hope … well, maybe when it comes to big tech. can’t think of anything better within the FAANG pantheon.
Apple loves control; the only reason I can think of that would make them oppose Google’s Web Integrity proposal is that they don’t think it goes far enough.
Or if Google takes that control when they wanted it for themselves. Imagine Apple devices needing something that Google dictates to access web. They’d sure be pissed if it isn’t them, and someone already posted their own idea of web certification in this thread.
Apple only opposes Google when new browser capabilites like PWAs, Bluetooth API, NFC API,… might be a threat to the Appstore monopoly on iOS.
I think they are very much onboard with this since it you could potentially make live hell for Hackintosh and Jailbreak users.
i wouldn’t be so sure about it. apple strongarmed google with jpgxl support and the european union pryed open their eco system, at least for eu citizens. apple currently positioning themselves on the side of privacy advocates would lose this standing (and many customers who switched to iphone because of it). i know, they could sugarcoat this, but i have a little hope left that they will draw a line on at least the most user hostile stuff.
Honestly my hope is still that the EU intervenes, which I consider to be around 50% given they’re a generally a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to regulations.
When Apple becomes my last hope, I’ll know times are bad. Having said that, it’s one of the parties that may actually oppose. The other big guy that may have some power in this, Microsoft, is probably more likely to adapt this catastrophe of an idea.
Apple already shipped attestation. It’s in Safari in both desktop and mobile. Unfortunately. It’s just going to take a couple big players to make this a blight everywhere. Netflix implementing this might do it. Google’s main sites would work.
the EU can be really schizo when it comes to stuff like that, that’s true. i don’t trust them. and apple as a last hope … well, maybe when it comes to big tech. can’t think of anything better within the FAANG pantheon.
Apple loves control; the only reason I can think of that would make them oppose Google’s Web Integrity proposal is that they don’t think it goes far enough.
Or they’ll come out with their own and try to be the dominant WEI code.
Or if Google takes that control when they wanted it for themselves. Imagine Apple devices needing something that Google dictates to access web. They’d sure be pissed if it isn’t them, and someone already posted their own idea of web certification in this thread.