• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      No. This is a political meme.

      This is implying that a huge chunk of Americans are too stupid to recognize the obvious threats here, and are making incredibly dumb memes to proudly state how ignorant they are on this issue.

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        7 months ago

        I’m trying to figure out if you think I’m replying to you or not…

        What I’m responding to is the “We can’t even stop a genocide” part of the comment I’m replying to. Which is a political stance the US is taking, and not really directly related to the meme in question.

        Also, taking memes (of all things) as some kind of mass endorsement is… some kind of twisted logic.

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          7 months ago

          Ehhh, sorry for messing up the reply chains. Your comment came after mine so I guess I thought you were replying to me. I see now I was mistaken.

          “We can’t even stop a genocide”

          Which one? The Ukrainian one? The Uyghurs? Or the Taiwan (Kuomintang/Chinese) ?? We’re trying to stop different genocides. Anyone saying “The Genocide” simply isn’t being specific enough.

          So yeah, everyone has political views on different genocides around the world. USA absolutely ignores major ones (ex: Uyghurs) though, because China is quite powerful and its not really worth it for us to work against it, even if we all agree that its a bad thing. Taiwan would be crossing a line though because we have substantial economic ties and geopolitical ties (they were our allies in WW2).

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            7 months ago

            Probably the one that’s been in the news for the last six months, the one you didn’t even mention. The one in Palestine.

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              7 months ago

              Yeah that’s cool.

              But the other ones are the ones the “anti-genocide” people seem to have forgotten about. We’re talking about China here, so the Uyghur genocide (still ongoing) is the one that’s topically relevant.

              You don’t just switch the topic to Palestine every god damn topic. There’s other parts of the world and other issues that go on.

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                7 months ago

                Oh yeah, that other one the US hasn’t tried to stop.

                Of course, the US also isn’t financially, politically, and economically invested in that genocide, so I can see how it might not be as relevant to the conversation.

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                  7 months ago

                  Yeah, and I’m cool with that. We gotta save our powder for the people we do care about.

                  And Taiwan is one of the people we should care about. Or do you think otherwise? The chip thing alone is a big deal, but there’s also the 70+ years of cooperation. Taiwan has been extremely good allies to us. There’s no reason why we should throw away that friendship as the going gets tough.

                  Another note: Gaza hasn’t done anything for us. I’m fine with yall kids white knighting for a forsaken people and everything, but there’s also some geopolitical realities we need to talk about. We absolutely, 100% should focus on protecting our friends. And maybe some neutrals (ex: Ukraine is a good neutral party that we should support). But Gaza… you’re leaning into people who actively hate us actually. I’m fine helping them but I’m not entirely sure what we get out of it.

                  But when it comes to our friends (ex: Taiwan), we 100% should rush to their aid when they’re in trouble.

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                    7 months ago

                    That’s fair, if you don’t care about people dying unless you’re financially motivated… that’s your own cross to bear.

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      7 months ago

      Well, I’m more implying that US is politically incapable of it more than militarily incapable. But yes, they’re not trying to stop it.