• Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
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    7 months ago

    banking app already don’t let you root or otherwise flash your device so I have given up hope in trying with them

    You can get around that pretty easily by fooling SafetyNet / Play Integrity and hiding root from those apps. My phones have all been rooted for years and I never had issues with banking apps. I don’t even run any google services anymore and the apps I use are fine with that.

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      I would not say easily. And even if you pass SafetyNet, your banking app may still not work. I have one, and I haven’t figured out what it checks for, maybe LineageOS name or something. Would probably have to tear the apk apart to find out.

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        Do you use Magisk? I assume you have done the following already?

        • Enable Zygisk & the DenyList
        • (If Google apps are installed, deny all Google apps root access)
        • Deny the app in question root access
        • Install PlayIntegrityFix on newer devices OR SafetyNetFix on older devices (don’t install both)
        • Reboot, force stop app and clear storage/cache
        • (Check if it works with this and this)

        That should do it for all apps that do not require strong integrity.

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          Thanks for the list. I didn’t have PlayIntegrityFix. Unfortunately it does not seem to be helping with the app.

          First one doesn’t pass all checks, but the second one does.

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            Yes, on my old phone it worked fine with the SafetyNetFix. I use microG now so Google Wallet is not implemented (yet).

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        Right. It’s always going to be an arms race that isn’t going to get easier as Google announces the next version will require Play Services & Play Store. Maybe someone will find a workaround, but there will be constant downtime in between these gaps. You’d think they would allow someone technically savvy enough to pass as they are probably rooted/custom ROM for a reason… but no.

        I’ve since switched to carrying a separate credit-card-sized apparatus for payments. It’s called a debit card + bank notes folded over. Transfers, I use their ancient website that detects Netscape Navigator 4 & disables paste & their encoding doesn’t allow English punctuation, but it works in a pinch. The hard part will be pushing against cashless as the banks & government want all the reporting/data collection—something customers & vendors aren’t the keenest towards but ultimately I think would acquiesce under enough pressure which I am fearful of.

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      Previous phone it worked up until it didn’t. New phone I left unrooted since that was the error they gave me. Now without the root/jailbreak error, I get a useless generic error & the app crashes. I’ve been too lazy to root it just choosing alternative payment methods.

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        7 months ago

        just choosing alternative payment methods.

        Probably the better method, no bank is worth going through all that hassle.