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  • Roboticide@lemmy.worldEnglish
    482·
    1 year ago

    Here is some additional context from an actual Mod of AdviceAnimals:

    [Deleted]

    I’ve inquired if they’re the one that phoned the Admins, but no reply yet. Having a top mod removed due to them unilaterally taking a sub private is not unprecedented, but it is an incredibly rare action.

    EDIT: That user has confirmed they did not contact the Admins, and don’t know who did, but that is still consistent with actions taken by Admins in the past to remove an absentee top moderator that made a unilateral move more active mods disagreed with.

    • Favor@beehaw.orgEnglish
      17·
      1 year ago

      Additional additional context: The absentee head mod (legweed) returned a week before the protests and made a thread for all the mods of the sub to discuss whether to do a blackout. Basically nobody else meaningfully interacted except for the a single mod who was vehemently against it (CedarWolf), the same mod that was promoted by the admins.

      The users of the sub overwhelmingly supported the blackout, but CedarWolf was involved in mass comment/post removals and bannings of pro-blackout content in the leadup. This included mod convo posts literally saying the community can’t make the decision for themselves and that they (CedarWolf) know what’s best for the community. At the same time legweed was trying to get other mods opinions but nobody actually responded until legweed make a stickied post to engage the community. This upset CedarWolf as he’d been spending most of his time suppressing those same conversations from happening.

      I’m not saying an absentee mod should be able to show up an unilaterally private a sub, but in this case they were showing up to engage the community and the community was the one who asked to have it privated. None of the other mods really cared enough to argue, the one anti-blackout person was basically alone in their opinion and is equally responsible for a unilateral decision, except that one went against the community wishes.

      Sure legweed was an absentee head mod, but CedarWolf wasn’t just active, he’s terminally online and has a really nasty superiority complex. I don’t think either is really head mod material but one sided with the admins and now they have the unilateral control they had already tried to exercise prior.

      Source/Context:

      https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/147eaw3/rsubredditdrama_is_in_restricted_mode_for_the/jo0eoqw/

      https://imgur.com/ChkGJG3

      • bionicjoey@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Unsurprising that some power tripping mods aren’t willing to give up their little fiefdom

    • average650@lemmy.worldEnglish
      141·
      1 year ago

      This is certainly a different story, but still, admin taking action here is not super common.

      Perhaps we should start a new post with this new information to discuss?

      • Roboticide@lemmy.worldEnglish
        181·
        1 year ago

        I don’t really know it’s worth a new post, because I don’t think this information really changes what we will see happen, which is realistically three things:

        1. Subs that didn’t commit to an indefinite protest are already coming back online, like /r/technology. Admins will be happy with that and do nothing.
        2. Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest but didn’t do so unanimously will have lower mods reach out to Admins to get higher mods removed, and open the subs back up. This is what happened with Advice Animals.
        3. Subs that did commit to an indefinite protest and did do so unanimously will have old mod teams removed and new mod teams put in. If they do this, they will probably do it later, and while there may be some uproar, anybody who really cares about this by then will probably have already left reddit.

        The fact that it was not super common previously doesn’t mean it won’t become more common, especially as precedent was set year ago.

        • average650@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          Well, I say that because each of those three situations is different. 1 does not add to the scumminess. 2 is borderline, but if mods are fighting over this, it does make sense for admins to step in. They are the only one with the power to settle that. But 3… that’s just absolute scum.

          The added info moved the advice animals case from 3 to 2 for me, and changes the situation. Have we seen 3 happen yet? I do expect it will happen, but has it happened?

      • Roboticide@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        Lol, now I kind of wish you hadn’t. The subreddit I got this from is private and it got enough attention to get me banned for leaking. Whelp…