• starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    The best available choice isn’t always one that you want to make. It’s fine to hate the idea of voting strategically, I hate it too, but it’s naive to think you can positively affect the system by going with the option you want the most.

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      9 months ago

      Voting for someone you disagree with is not voting strategically, it’s voting against your interests based on what you assume others will do.

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        9 months ago

        No, we can say with absolute certainty that (barring any issues with mortality) either Trump or Biden will win this year. I assume others will vote for those two for the same reason I assume that the sun will rise tomorrow.

        ETA: I was right about the sunrise. Check back in a few months to find out if I was right about the president!

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          9 months ago

          And in 2028?

          Your lazy ass will be making the same argument. I will actually express democracy unlike you, and will work to gather votes for the Greens.

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        17 days ago

        Update: I was as right about the voting as I was about the sunrise. I’ll try to remember to update you on whether Trump actually becomes president—shit’s crazy lately, so you never know

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          17 days ago

          Biden was a dogshit president, and you should be ashamed for ever supporting him or the Democrats instead of making a better candidate viable. That’s your responsibility as a citizen, so no you were not right in any way, idiot.

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            17 days ago

            Biden was (and is) a shit president, but it’s pretty weird that you think Trump is better

            But also, what I was right about is that it would either be the Democrat or the Republican

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              17 days ago

              Nope, never said Trump was better, you’re just trying to feel better about yourself.

              I was right that you’re too lazy to make any effort to change that, and deserve a Trump presidency for that.

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                17 days ago

                Just so we’re clear here, this whole argument has been about who the better candidate to vote for is. I made the prediction that the only two candidates who could possibly win were the Republican or the Democrat, and that the only way you could influence the election on November 5th was to vote for one of the two.

                I was right, like I’ve been this entire time. If you don’t think Trump is better than Biden (Harris, same diff), why did you let him get elected?

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                  16 days ago

                  Why did you let him get elected? You supported someone who couldn’t even get any delegates in the Democratic primary, she was going to lose. So I supported a better option, as you should have.

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                    16 days ago

                    I didn’t let him get elected, I voted for the only other candidate that could have possibly won. I could have just not voted, but you get how that’s worse, right?

                    So I supported a better option

                    The better option is a candidate who can’t possibly win?