• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    8 months ago

    https://mappingpoliceviolence.org

    The site states the most common race and ethnicity to be killed by police is Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander, but there’s no further data. When I search outside of the site, I find statistics that lump Asian Americans in with Pacific Islanders. 110 deaths is a very large percentage of a relatively small population.

    Does anyone have more information on this statistic?

  • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    116·
    8 months ago

    In what community is police violence a leading cause of death? 300 is not a very high number for a leading cause of death. 600,000 people in the US died of cancer in 2020.

    • pearsaltchocolatebarEnglish
      2·
      8 months ago

      Also, is it adjusting for reasonable use of lethal force? Not every situation can end peacefully (though it should be the goal).

    • Woozythebear@lemmy.worldEnglish
      43·
      8 months ago

      If you grew up in places like Baltimore or Chicago or New York you would hear about someone you know getting killed or almost killed by the police like once a month. Not unreasonable for a communities leading cause of death to be by cop.

      • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        13·
        8 months ago

        I have 2 questions. What definition of “community” are we using here? And, can you provide convincing evidence that is the case?

        • Woozythebear@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          8 months ago

          A community is a community, I don’t know how else to explain it… my evidence is I’ve fucking lived it. I know 2 people who have been killed by cops and dozens more who have been beaten so badly they could have easily died. I don’t know anyone who has died of cancer.

          I’m sorry you’re not educated on the way policing works in poor and minority communities but it’s not my job to educate you. If you want to learn you can easily do so.

          • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            Its important to specify what you mean by community. Is it a city, a district, a neighborhood? If its a city, then even if all 300 murders happened in that city, it still wouldn’t be a leading cause of death. It is much more possible that a smaller group of people may have been targeted enough that this could be a leading cause of death. Although, I’'m still skeptical based on that 300 statistic for the entire country.

            I personally know many people who have died of cancer and none who have been killed by police. But, that means effectively nothing. Its an anecdote that has no value as evidence. I want statistics, not stories. Its not your job to educate me, but you are volunteering to put time and effort into arguing your case with me. I don’t think its that crazy to then expect you to back up that case with actual evidence.

            It doesn’t make you look reasonable when you refuse to back up your claims, and then call me uneducated because I don’t already agree with you.

  • mojo_raisin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    8 months ago

    Does that include the ones they murder in jail by neglect, starvation, overheating, refusing medical care, etc?