The United States federal government allocates a staggering $38 billion annually to prop up the meat and dairy industries. These subsidies significantly reduce the price of meat products, including hamburgers. Research from 2015 reveals that these subsidies slash the price of a pound of hamburger meat from $30 to the $5 we see today

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    7 months ago

    Farm subsidies are a thing in general. Is there a comparison to subsidies for crops? Not vegan but I support cutting beef & dairy subsidies for sure.

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      7 months ago

      You don’t want to even start to look into subsidies for things like grain and corn. The subsidies for those are higher than the beef and dairy industry.

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            7 months ago

            More overall to feed it to cattle since that will always have us growing more plants than we would otherwise.

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            Zero.

            The natives that cultivated corn never used petrochemicals. They planted beans with the corn, which provides all the nitrogen needed.

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              Yes planting the three sisters is a great way to farm in the arid west. It also requires the crops to be hand planted, weeded and harvested. There is no way that this could be done on a large enough scale to feed the current population or even the population 50 years ago.

              There is a reason monocroping and petrochemical fertilizer exists. It is the most harmful form of farming, but is also the one way that enough food can be grown.

              I dislike the current farming system, but to go back 100+ years to a time. When the only way to have the labor needed to farm was sharecropping or worse doesn’t seem like a solution to me.

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                The reason it exists is because less people contribute to the growing process.

                Its entirely false to think that we cannot feed our existing population without mechanized monocropping. We just need every able bodied person to contribute a few weeks out of the year to the fields. It is a shift, bit its not asking much.

                Stop spreading misinformation. We don’t need oil. We van easily feed everyone with sustainable methods. What we can’t do is keep burning fossil fuels.

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                  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I can’t even. Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know where we got nitrogen fertilizer before petrochemical? We were scraping bird poop off rookies and digging up bat caves. Destroying those populations as we did.

                  If you really believe this I would suggest you go try to pick veggies for a day. And not just a few in your back yard. Go out and spend 12 hours in the hot sun bent over as you get paid by the pound. Then come back here and say it is easy.

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                    I recommend reading Conquest of Bread to see how easy it is to feed our population.

                    It wouldn’t be 12 hours a day. It would be 4 hour days, at most a few months per year, more evenly distributed amongst all able bodied people.

                    We slave to capital not because we have to.

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          Let’s ignore the absolute devastation to our ecosystem for the untold millions of acres of monoculture