• MisterMoo@lemmy.world
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      I mean let’s be honest, that’s slightly better than US companies plus the Chinese Communist Party being able to do so.

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      Problems with this app go beyond just privacy and bleed into national security.

      You as a citizen of your country have an obligation to not freely offer yourself up as an attack vector for cybercriminals all so you could fry your brain with garbage media.

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          Case in point: all the college protests. All the arrests happening are from people being encouraged on TikTok to become aggressive and angry towards apartheid. But the question is how the fuck is protesting at a college going to change what a government in another country is going to do in any way? The Israeli government gives little to no fuck about kids opinions protesting at a college campus in the United States. It’s likely civil unrest being spread by TikTok.

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            They have very simple demands, they’re not giving some pie in the sky stuff like “have Joe Biden tried for war crimes and abolish capitalism” or something; the protests all have demands along the lines that their university boycott Israeli companies and cut ties with weapons manufacturers aiding the genocide. To claim otherwise is completely infantalising to the protestors who are risking their university positions and physical health to protest despite the police crackdowns.

            Here’s a link to the list of demands of the student protest in new York, for instance

            And here’s a picture of the list of the demands of the columbia faculty protest:

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            All the arrests happening are from people being encouraged on TikTok to become aggressive and angry towards apartheid.

            THEY ARE TRYING TO STOP THE GENOCIDE BEING PERPETRATED IN THEIR NAME

            WTF is wrong with you?

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            College protests have been a thing since Vietnam. Look up Kent State.

            It wasn’t China that gave them the idea, it was history.

            And it’s working. More and more people are sympathizing with Palestine the more the government overreacts to peaceful protests.

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            I’m not sure it’s true that the Israeli government doesn’t care about American public opinion, since they do benefit from American military support, but let’s assume what you said is true.

            Even if Americans protesting won’t stop the genocide, won’t end apartheid, I’d prefer that those atrocities are not committed with my tax dollars, with support from my government, in my name. The lesson learned from 9/11 shouldn’t have been “we need to enact regime change anywhere in the world where American interest are opposed”. It should have been “Americans better make sure they are OK with the things that their government is doing abroad”.

            I’m not OK with it, I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that Gaza can be levelled with “made in America” munitions. I’m not willing to risk dying in a terrorist attack so that oil companies and other big business interests have friendly regimes to collude with in the region as they scam the people out of their resources and freedoms.

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            If they don’t care then why did satanyahu come out in a speech against it? Protesting does work and does matter. You only need to look at history to see that

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          The U.S government doesn’t have the same ability as the CCP to just get whatever info they want out of corporations with no due process. The two are completely incomparable.

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              Do I honestly believe China has an easier time getting corporations to bend over and violate their citizens rights? Why do you need to clarify this??

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                What is the difference if both countries access to user data at the end no matter easier or harder way? US is trying to block Tiktok under the name of national security but US itself has been violating other countries’ national security and privacy of people of these countries for years. What bothers me is people like you support this hypocritical action.

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                  Hypocritical action? China’s internet hasn’t allowed external companies to offer services since its inception. All I’m saying is if the US wants to treat Chinese companies like China has treated US companies that should be perfectly fine.

                  You’re out here complaining that China’s not receiving the same rights it fails to extend to other people and calling that hypocritical??

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                    If the US said “China does not let our companies to operate there so we can not let Chinese companies to operate in the US” I’d be okay for that. Justifying Tiktok ban in the name of national security and privacy what sounds hypocritical to me.