• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    But if someone really believes that they identify as autumn, don’t they think they are being candid and clear? Who are you to say they aren’t?

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      6 months ago

      Then they are mistaken, and I am a caring companion letting them know they should reevaluate their assessment and maybe see somebody. It really undercuts the message of the trans community to imply that identify ones gender is the same as stating something categorically false.

      Self identity doesn’t make truth, it only asserts it.

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        6 months ago

        This sounds very similar to claims that trans people are mistaken. Why do you get to be the arbiter of that?

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          6 months ago

          Absolutely taking the opposite of my meaning. It seems to me you are saying a claim of one’s gender and a claim of one being a season are the same? Please state yes or no if you believe that to be true. If yes, I believe this is the scummy position with which I take issue. If no, then you have simply missed the precise point I’m making. That they aren’t the same. For one is a statement of the fact of one’s gender, and the other a false statement.

          That is why somebody should care if somebody were to state, even if in earnest that they are a season or helicopter or similar. Because in the best case they are mistaken and in the worst case making a mockery of gender identity which I fear, though am not certain, you are doing here.

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            6 months ago

            I’m saying it’s not up to me to say what someone else identifies as and it’s common courtesy to address people the way they want to be addressed.

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              6 months ago

              Periodically a conversation ends with my confidence that I agree with a person but a difference in perspective makes that unclear.