‘We Cannot Win’ Says Top Russian Commander Alexander Khodakovsky
www.kyivpost.com
The leader of the Russian battalion defeated at liberated Urozhaine calls for “freezing the front” after his unreinforced troops were devastated in a rout.

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The Russian commander of the “Vostok” Battalion fighting in southern Ukraine said on Thursday that Ukraine will not be defeated and suggested that Russia freeze the war along current frontlines.

Alexander Khodakovsky made the candid concession yesterday on his Telegram channel after Russian forces, including his own troops, were devastatingly defeated by Ukrainian marines earlier this week at Urozhaine in the Zaporizhzhia-Donetsk regional border area.

“Can we bring down Ukraine militarily? Now and in the near future, no,” Khodakovsky, a former official of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, said yesterday.

“When I talk to myself about our destiny in this war, I mean that we will not crawl forward, like the [Ukrainians], turning everything into [destroyed] Bakhmuts in our path. And, I do not foresee the easy occupation of cities,” he said.

  • barsoap@lemm.ee
    33·
    1 year ago

    Ukraine has lost. They are not getting their separatist regions back.

    [citation needed].

    In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting. Heck even if Russia occupied all of Ukraine they’d keep on fighting. It’s not in your hands whether they fight or not, and their motive is just, so why not help them? Because you’re a defeatist? Come on.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      23·
      1 year ago

      In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting

      Yeah, that’s why they’ve been kidnapping people to the front lines, because the Ukranian people want to fight so much. That’s why they conscripted prison inmates and forbid any man undder 60 from leaving when the war broke out, right. Because of all that popular will to fight.

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        13·
        1 year ago

        There’s been plenty of court cases and firings over improperly handled conscriptions. Prison inmates IIRC weren’t conscripted but given a choice. Plenty of Ukrainians – also men – returned from other European countries to fight, left countries where they had a free welfare ride and working permits. Plenty of women fight in the army. It surely must be terrible over there /s.

        Meanwhile Russia is force-conscripting pretty much any man they can get their hands on and sending them, without equipment, into meat grinders. Have a look at Storm Z units.

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        13·
        1 year ago

        You know what would be even more senseless than dying in a trench? Dying in an FSB torture cellar while your family gets raped.

          • barsoap@lemm.ee
            12·
            1 year ago

            Stuff you don’t want to hear so didn’t hear, apparently: Russian torture cellars. Other things you might not want to hear include Russians castrating POWs.

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              15·
              1 year ago

              I said the war is lost and Ukraine should negotiate. You said:

              It’s not in your hands whether they fight or not, and their motive is just, so why not help them?

              I pointed out how ridiculous it is to say “why not help them” is to someone who just said they believed the war was lost. Rather than continue this conversation, you went off on a tangent. Brilliant.

              • barsoap@lemm.ee
                12·
                1 year ago

                It’s not a tangent. Even if Ukraine lost (and it didn’t, and you made no actual argument on why I should believe so) with the kind of atrocities Russia is committing in occupied territories tons of people would, and, well, do, fight against the occupiers.

                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  12·
                  1 year ago

                  you made no actual argument on why I should believe so

                  Would anything convince you?

                  And yes, bringing up allegations of war crimes is a total non sequitur in a discussion about whether the war itself is winnable for Ukraine. No war crime is excusable, but every side of every war commits them.

                  • barsoap@lemm.ee
                    12·
                    1 year ago

                    Would anything convince you?

                    Yes. It would involve military analysis.

    • InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      Ukraine has lost. They are not getting their separatist regions back.

      [citation needed].

      Points at the utter failure of the joke of a counteroffensive to even breach Russia’s first line of defense after months of hype about retaking Crimea

      In any case Ukrainians disagree with you and keep on fighting.

      You mean the ones forced to fight because they were kidnapped off the street and will be shot if they try to leave? Or the fascists that are in charge?

      Heck even if Russia occupied all of Ukraine they’d keep on fighting.

      Part of the reason why Russia does not want to occupy all of Ukraine.

      It’s not in your hands whether they fight or not,

      Nor yours, but it is in the hands of NATO leadership who have stymied peace negotiations at every opportunity.

      and their motive is just

      [citation needed]

      so why not help them?

      Why would we want to help people get forced into a meat grinder?