I know we aren’t allowed to use Chrome. We can’t use Brave. But how does the Lemmy community feel about the Vivaldi Browser? or is it still not Firefox…
I know we aren’t allowed to use Chrome.
Who says? Use whatever you want, if you want to use Chrome then use it, nobody is stopping you.
As for Vivaldi, I personally think it’s the best Chromium browser out there, highly customizable with all the good stuff from old Opera without none of the garbage from current Opera, plus it seems to be reasonably respectful of your privacy. Their only mistake was building it on Chromium.
I agree, I really liked its design and featureset. But after the third time I got a crash that deleted absolutely all browser data, as if it had been re-installed, I had to ditch it. It happened months apart, with no warning. I just open it one day and everything is gone. Not cool.
We’ve decided you’re only allowed to use Lynx from now on.
Lynx is for losers. Real hackers use curl.
All you really need is a
fd
.movq $0x29, %rax movq $0x02, %rdi movq $0x01, %rsi movq $0x00, %rdx syscall
Is this a rickroll I’m too dumb to understand?
Me as well.
Wrote my own multi-threaded c++ http client for video streaming back in the day, kiss my M-x butterfly.
Bom chicka wah wah.
I’m game, does it work with Authorize.net though? I need it for work
You can use any browser you want, just be aware of what the downsides are when you do.
The issue with Chrome and Chromium based broswers is the power that Google exerts over the internet via the Blink engine. Although other companies use the same technology, Google controls it and shapes it for it’s own commerical gains.
The other big alternative is also proprietary with Apple’s Sarfari and WebKit ecosystem.
Vivaldi is a nice browser but it is still run by a private company and it still monetises you to an extent. In vivaldi’s case it is currently fairly inocuous - they have referral deals with search engines for the default search, and deals with companies for default bookmarks. But it seems to be currently a more trustworthy browser. Ultimately though, it is part of the Blink ecosystem and supports Google’s increasing domination of the browser engine space.
Mozilla and Firefox remains the only truly independent browser, run in a not-for-profit and fully open source way, on the Gecko engine. It’s existance helps maintain the neutral aspects of the Web - instead of sites being designed for one browser, it encourages web site and services to be truly standards compliant. Firefox monetise users in a similar way to Vivaldi but that money is used to actually maintain and develop Gecko and other Mozilla technologies, while Vivaldi use that money to maintain Vivaldi the company - they don’t need to fund most of Blink as it’s made available by Google.
But no one is obliged to support Firefox or open technologies. It’s a personal choice what browser you use and there are many valid reasons beyond open standards to chose a browser. I use Firefox for multiple reasons; I genuinely like it and am used to it, but I actually also use Vivaldi and even Chrome on occasions (sometimes to view crapily designed ad heavy or tracking sites without having to disable lots of privacy extensions etc in firefox to make it work; I use Chrome as a bog standard sandbox when I want to dump crap sites out of my main browser but still want to quickly view it for whatever reason).
Pick a browser you like and don’t feel guilty if that happens to be chrome based.
Use whatever you want?
The guy is asking, in a vague way, for advice on which browser is best
Firefox is the only good choice since everything else is built on chromium.
Two legs baaad, four legs good.
What about Ladybird, NetSurf, Flow, Pale Moon, Basilisk and K-Meleon? As far as I know no one of those is chromium based and they aren’t Firefox forks either.
Bullshit. Plenty of other browsers based on other engines like WebKit.
It’s chromium but has a special place in my heart because it’s made by the og Opera people, when Opera used its own engine. I still use Firefox but if I ever switched it would probably be to Vivaldi.
It’s all Chromium, the same browser.
Firefox still isn’t chrome.
I know, i use firefox
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Use whatever you want. But do consider if you want to contribute to Google’s monopoly, and if you want to use an open-source browser.
- Vivaldi Browser is not open source. Better use Brave than that…
- If you still really hate Firefox, Ungoogled Chromium which is basically Chrome with all the Google stuff removed.
- All of the above do still contribute to Google’s monopoly, so I would really encourage Firefox or a fork.
- Barring that, you could also get away with a WebKit browser (like GNOME web, Nyxt). Although WebKit is developed by Apple, it’s still open source and doesn’t look particularly bad. If you’re on a Mac, Safari is an option, but it’s closed source.
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When I started looking for a different browser, I almost chose Vivaldi. Then I discovered it was based on chromium os in the end I opted for Firefox
It’s top on my list of Chromium browsers
I daily drive Vivaldi.
The Android version is good too.
It’s my daily driver on my phone. I have Firefox on desktop, but back when I wanted a more privacy focused browser on my phone too, mobile Firefox was still dogshit. I got vivaldi instead and haven’t really felt the need to switch.
Vivaldi is now my main browser. Sync works great. The sidebar is awesome.
GNU Lynx is the only acceptable browser
- sent from Firefox on Android
I would say Vivaldi is my favorite Chromium browser, carrying forward the values of OG Opera from when I was a teenager. A browser for people who love to customize and want everything but the kitchen sink in one suite. Sadly, unlike Opera, which ran its own Presto browser engine, Vivaldi is somewhat leashed by Google, due to it running on Chromium. So I mostly use Firefox
Vivaldi is fairly nice, but it’s another Chromium. Similar to Brave, they’ve said they won’t be including the Topics API, so it doesn’t quite feed into the monoculture. (Disappointingly, they seem like they won’t be disabling WEI, Google’s latest land grab. Admittedly, for understandable reasons that mirror the original DRM for the web a decade ago, the blunt fact is that they seem like they’ll go along with it anyway.) Considering the team is (supposedly) largely shared from some people that used to develop their own engine (Presto, before Opera switched to Chromium), I could also believe they could (possibly would) hard fork Chromium if they felt it necessary. If this is enough for you, then I’m sure you’ll have a wonderful time with it, and I’ve enjoyed it well enough when I’ve tried it. Personally, I don’t daily it.