• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Trump isn’t in charge right now. There is a genocide happening right now. Trump has nothing to do with that. How can you not want to pressure the guy that has the power right now to do something?

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      6 months ago

      No one said anything about not pressuring the guy, but right now isn’t the time to be divisive. The US is literally on the brink of becoming a fascist theocracy, and Biden is the only one who can stop it.

      It sucks that he’s our only option, but that’s life.

      Shit on him all you want after the election, but right now isn’t the time. The alternative is a guy who supports nuking Gaza.

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        6 months ago

        What pressure are you putting on the guy? Guaranteeing him your vote is the opposite of pressure. It reads as endorsement or at least tacit approval of his policies. Assuming Biden actually cares to win the election, the best thing to do is threaten to withhold your vote. He still has five months to change voters minds. Let him see the polling, let his campaign see the mood on social media. Genocide is a red line, and it’s a low fucking bar.

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        6 months ago

        but right now isn’t the time to be divisive

        It’s never the time, and all criticism is seen as divisive by people who can’t abide critics.

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            6 months ago

            So, when will it be the time, and what criticism is permitted without you considering it divisive?

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              6 months ago

              After the election.

              Yes, Biden supporting Israel sucks, but Israel isn’t the biggest issue facing us right now. The existence of our country as we know it depends on the upcoming election.

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                  6 months ago

                  Yes, there’s that pesky reading comprehension again. I never said Biden didn’t deserve criticism for his decisions regarding the Israeli genocide. But, he’s literally the only person who can stand in the way of the US becoming a fascist theocracy.

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                    6 months ago

                    Yes, there’s that pesky reading comprehension again.

                    You’re deliberately mislabeling skepticism as stupidity.

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        6 months ago

        What Trump would do is an irrelevant question right now. This isn’t about the future, it is about the present.

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          6 months ago

          So you think Trump would oppose the genocide

          This was the question. It’s either yes or no.

          Edit: I also find it hilarious that to you, his stance on Gaza is irrelevant when he is, in fact, running for president. Gotta love sticking your head in the sand so your own narrative makes sense.

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            And it is irrelevant either way. Do you think Trump has power to end this genocide right now? Yes or no?

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              Again, avoiding the question. I’ll answer when you do. It’s not that hard, but thanks for telling me all I need to know, champ.

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                6 months ago

                Sorry if I am more concerned with the ongoing genocide supported by the current fascist in power, than with the potential continuation of the same genocide by the next fascist who may come to power.

                You don’t really need my answer, and I don’t really need yours either.