• stanleytweedle@lemmy.world
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    I tend to avoid anyone that feels compelled to define themselves by a political ideology. It just becomes an identity and the identity becomes more important than anything the ideology was supposed to represent.

    You really aren’t required to wear your team colors or even have a team. If you have a point- make the point. If any part of your point depends on declaring your political identity- it’s not a solid point.

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      Counterpoint: If my existence as a marginalized individual has already been politicized by conservatives, then I lack the privileged position to simply “Make the point and shut up”, which is what you are effectively suggesting. When my identity as a human being (by blood, not beliefs) has been made a political argument, then no I’m sorry, my identity is also political… and that has been forced on me. Nothing about that invalidates the points I have to make to argue for my continued existence.

      All I’m saying is, you act like identity is an abstract thing from politics, but for some people it can never be. Just being quiet means they are still people arguing for your death.

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        I tend to avoid anyone that feels compelled to define themselves by a political ideology. It just becomes an identity and the identity becomes more important than anything the ideology was supposed to represent.

        Please reevaluate my comment with focus on the phrase ‘political identity’. If you’re talking about sexuality or gender- that’s not a ‘political identity’, That’s who you are as a human being as much as being black or white or tall or short. I recognize and sympathize that those facets of humanity have been brutally politicized but I’m speaking of ‘political identities’ that people necessarily choose or willingly accept, not the ‘identity’ that comes from just being born as you.

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          My dude, their comment is arguing that their sexuality/gender is already politicised, so they don’t have the privilege of choosing a political identity as it’s thrust upon them by the republicans.

          They read your comments fine, I don’t necessarily agree with them, but they read it

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          I recognize and sympathize that those facets of humanity have been brutally politicized

          No… I don’t think you do.

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      Unfortunately, to all those that feel compelled to proudly display their teams colors, that makes you the ‘other’.

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        I’m not really comfortable as ‘one of’ anything so I’ve become pretty accustomed to being ‘the other’.

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          A person belonging to one or more Order is just as likely to carry a flag of the counter-establishment as the flag of the establishment-- just as long as it is a flag. - Principia Discordia

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      my long standing, and proven litmus test of politics is “if you have an opinion, it’s wrong”

      Because without fail, people will just say shit, that’s just wrong. The second that politics comes into play.

      Please for the love of god, stop engaging with politics, it’s worse than reality TV, because we live here.

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        Please for the love of god, stop engaging with politics,

        If you live in anything resembling a democracy that’s basically surrendering to whatever opponents of your rights want to do to you. If you’re that submissive I guess that’s your only option but I’m saying if you have any strength of will at all ‘engage with politics as an individual, just don’t imagine yourself as representing or represented by a team.’

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          ‘engage with politics as an individual, just don’t imagine yourself as representing or represented by a team.’

          this pretty much. Everytime i say this shit people seem to take the most idiotic interpretation of it for some reason. I’m talking about the kind of politics where nothing happens other than people yelling at each other for being stupid, and then ironically, people yell at me for being a stupid idiot.

          Comedy literally couldn’t write itself.

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            “Why are people interpreting my broad stupid statement as a broad stupid statement instead of the nonsense specific statement I imagined in my head? Are they stupid?”