• Crampon@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        You think it was a default option to export avocados from South America to Sweden?

        It’s strange believing we can’t live how we lived for thousands of years because we changed our habits the past 300. Explosive human growth is not a necessity for human life. It’s a necessity for capitalism to thrive.

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          5 months ago

          Of course: if we just let a significant portion of the human population starve to death THAT will result in us living ethically!

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            5 months ago

            The question of how much energy is used to feed people. Is it more energy efficient to grow an avocado to ship it to sweden, or raise a cow in sweden?

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              5 months ago

              in case you actually want to know the answer:

              it’s the avocado being shipped. and by, like, a mile and a half. it’s not even close.

              raising cattle is the single most energy, water, and CO2 intensive food production there currently is.

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                  5 months ago

                  ???

                  except:

                  • lots of land
                  • feed (which requires a LOT of land)
                  • massive amounts of water
                  • insane amounts of antibiotics and assorted other medicine
                  • stupid amounts of electricity
                  • etc.

                  raising cattle on a commercial scale requires mind boggling resources!

                  every single study on environmental impacts of food production lists beef as the number 1 worst food source in terms of environmental impacts period.

                  “Raising cattle doesn’t require anything.” - yeah, in fantasy land.

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                    5 months ago

                    The basis of this thread was that livestock can be raised on land that is not viable for farming. Re-do the calculation when taking into account that the livestock wander freely ten months a year, and that feed is grown on land too harsh for all or most crops, and let me know how it turns out.