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    5 months ago

    No, actually nationalism in Europe is like “let’s hate our neighbors instead of the bourgeois in our country. They speak a silly language”. That’s what mobilized soldiers into the first world war.

    Source: I’m German and I hate French people much more than my boss (/s to the last part if not obvious)

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      5 months ago

      I think that’s just good ol’ fashioned xenophobia. But yeah, has often been a trait of ultra nationalism in Europe’s very complex history. Maybe the comic should be retitled; A beginner’s guide to “nationalism”.

      I say often here, pick whatever political/economical/societal ism you like, there’ll always been an entity exploiting it in the background. This is why we have so many, none of them seem to ever work, and everyone has such varying views and experiences of them, why they do/don’t work. Our species can’t have nice things.

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        You don’t see a connection between nationalism and xenophobia? This is beyond me

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          5 months ago

          Apparently making it to the second sentence of a comment is beyond you as well :)

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            Not that I’m obligated to answer you, neither did you answer me, but sure:

            It is a thought terminating cliche to say “Nothing is perfect so everything is the same.” No, there are big gradual differences between systems and it does matter which is in place.

            But I don’t think I will convince you and I don’t think I will continue this conversation.

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              5 months ago

              Your question wasn’t answered because it was already answered. Now you’re steering far off course based on an additional and brief remark, that was not a question, as though it’s a mantra. Yeah, your “answer” was indeed a waste of your time.

              Stopping now probably is for the best.