I am a Democrat, but I will say that my moderate Republican friends are a lot easier to political discussions with than my further left friends (I have one communist friend who is an exception, because he owns up to the fact that he is unhinged). I actually agree more with my progressive friends than my Republican friends. But when I do disagree with my progressive friends, they become unpleasant.
Anyone want to place bets on why those friends are quote unquote “becoming unpleasant”?
he owns up to the fact that he is unhinged
a coward and a liberal
not sure we should accept the neoliberal’s framing here at face value. “owns up to the fact the he is unhinged” could mean he openly and honestly advocates for a position that the author here finds unhinged. i’m picturing something like
uncritical support for the democratic people’s republic of korea and its struggle against the genocidal imperialist occupiers
that’s completely unhinged sure, and you are deeply unserious
This user is an annoying zionist is my bet.
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Maga people thinking going from maga to the neoliberalism that installed Pinochet is “deradicalisation”.
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People that think Bernie lukewarm social democracy was “radical” instead of literally the most central political position around most of the world.
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People that admit they were never really radical leftists to begin with.
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Zionists, settlers, supporters of apartheid, supporters of genocide.
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No actual deradicalisations.
They went from freelance radicalism to state-sponsored radicalism
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Lmao someone said the US army
Imperialist dogs
Wanting to belong just shortcuts people’s brains. Absolute boomer logic. I too would love to just be a cog in the machine. I love the idea of all working together to settle Mars, Expanse style, except the way I’d do it would be to bring back Soviet style communism (Red Planet huehuehuehue).
Difference is, I still actually don’t want to society to suck and be shit, and for these 20 something boomers, they just don’t give a fuck. They love slavery so long as it is part of their identity. Imperialism is fine, because it is people who look like me who are doing it. Even though it is Coca Cola and Nestle and the oil companies that are the ones who reap the benefits.
Same thing with organised religion. People literally could not give a fuck if it makes sense, or if it makes their lives worse, or if it used as a cudgel to bludgeon the poor unfortunates that fall outside the pre-defined good group. They don’t care if it serves archaic power structures, and even do not give a fuck when it is arbitrarily used against them. They just pick an identity (or more accurately have one randomly assigned to them by the circumstances of their birth), and then they go with it. Pure vibes.
So yeah not in the least bit surprised that the army brought these people “back into the fold”
Honestly, a leftist CCC would be an amazing thing for people to do. I’ve done a couple things like that for a local org and it was incredibly rewarding.
I made a bunch of money and realized that I only care about myself and you should just do that
yeah, I expect a common reason to be “became a landlord”
You know 90% of them think of their Social Democracy Lite phase as “radicalism.”
Dude thinks life being more valuable than property is radical, peak ghoul.
“I’m as progressive as they come but fuck the homeless population.” - that guy
you’d get banned for being white
A good combination of
and Strong case of basing their politics off of oppositional defiant disorder.
why do these fucks always take the mantle of “rational, data driven” is how they found neoliberalism?
what if your own reasoning and data interest actually made you a communist instead?
Because that implies that data has ‘ideology’ as opposed to just data points existing in a vacuum.
the central conceit of neoliberalism has always been that it’s the most rational position and only the true adults in the room will accept its mandates.
this was all the more mindboggling in the aftermath of the World Wars, when state-driven planning resulted in absolutely massive economic and industrial booms and even better profit for the bourgeoisie than under “free trade”. it was literally just “ignore what happened over the last five years, ignore the evidence of your senses, we have to do deflation and remove funding from programs.” this total willingness to ignore history and science in the pursuit of maintaining the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie even at the expense of their own profits means that there is no hope that in the current day, neoliberal governments will follow China’s lead. hell, even mild Keynesianism and full employment measures would be regardless as giga-Stalinist ultracommunism now. this is bad for us proles of course, but pretty great if you’re interested in watching Western imperialism collapse - they will resist with all their might any attempt to take the offramp that would save the imperialist system
so they are basically doing their own accelerationism because their ideology forces them to. no FDR this time to save the day.
Speak for yourself. On certain topics, I’m still radical as fuck. It just so happens that economic policy and similar things aren’t where I’m radical.
Sincerely,
A transgender corporate attorney who is raising a family in the suburbs
FUCK YOU, GOT MINE
I was a lot more naive and very idealistic. I’ll just fess up that I was much more left leaning in the last handful of years. A lot of it was the socialist kind of stuff as absolutely embarrassing as it is to say. It was never tankie level, but with long story short I came to realize that markets are pretty tight, America and it’s institutions probably aren’t NEARLY as bad as I thought they were in fact they’re really good, came to have a lot more compassion for liberals and centrists, “revolution” is cringe and reform is literally the ONLY way, etc.
I’d still say I’m a pretty idealistic guy and I still have particular issues even we might not agree on. But neoliberals strike me as very reasonable and sensible. Now if I could wish for anyone else to be deradicalized, it would be bringing the Trump crowd back to the bog standard fiscal conservatism. Lmao
Deeply unserious
Everyone always talks about class enemies, but what about class friends?
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