• Zagorath@aussie.zoneOP
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    5 months ago

    People whinge about all kinds of things as excuses for why cycling doesn’t happen. In Canada it’s “it’s too cold”. In the UK it’s “too wet”. In Brisbane I alternately see “too hot” and “too hilly” brought up as excuses.

    It’s all bullshit.

    The evidence tells us pretty clearly. Infrastructure is the whole thing. With good infrastructure, people will cycle in any weather. It’s what happens everywhere in the world, every time they build actual good infrastructure.

    And for what it’s worth, I find it much easier to cycle in Brisbane’s summer than its winter. Our winters are an awkward in-between temperature where you can’t rug up properly because if you do you get too hot while riding. But it’s too cold to go out in shorts. Speaking objectively, those Canadians are closer to having a good point. Warm weather doesn’t make your tyres slip; doesn’t require snow to be ploughed off of the path.

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      If I ride in summer to a meeting, I’m going to need a shower and a full change of clothes. That’s not practical. Sure, at can implement infrastructure (showers) everywhere, and places to store our sopping wet sweaty clothes maybe, but it’s just not going to fly.

      Definitely introduce infrastructure, and get people on bikes.

      But let’s not live in fantasy land that the humidity makes riding to work in summer a no for most people, who need to be clean, dry, and have non sweat soaked clothes at work.

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        5 months ago

        That comes down to infrastructure though.

        My workplace has a bike storage room, change rooms, showers, irons and lockers, so the problems you’re describing as impractical are quite practical for me.

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          That’s nice. I just don’t see showers and change rooms, with bike storage and whatnot becoming the norm. It would be great if it did, but I think it would be a long way off. Fingers crossed though

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            5 months ago

            Everywhere that I’ve worked so far has had an End of Trip facility except for my supermarket job as a teenager.

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              I’ve worked in quite a few places in Brisbane, and never had a shower (that I was aware of).

              That was a while ago though, so good to see things are changing.

              I remember one particular summer, just walking from the valley train station, about 1 km to work. It was before 8am. A very hot summer.

              By the time I got to work my shirt was stuck to me from the sweat. Soaked. That was before 8am.

              I can’t imagine riding. I’d have been dripping puddles if I’d have ridden.

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            It won’t be the norm for workplaces for a long time, but my city also has semi public spaces that offer the same in the CBD. Basically, for a subsidised monthly fee, you have access to the facilities I described above, in a dedicated bike storage space. And that could easily become normalised

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              It won’t be the norm for workplaces for a long time

              I have no idea what they’re talking about, because it’s already the norm. Last time I was applying for work, asking about end of trip facilities was one of my routine questions, and they always had a good answer to it. Most CBD offices have them. As do other major employers like unis, schools (via the change rooms used for PE, if nothing else), and hospitals.

              And if your particular CBD building doesn’t, there’s the Cycle2City EoT facilities, which are cheaper than public transport and much cheaper than paying for CBD parking.

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                Last time I was applying for work, asking about end of trip facilities was one of my routine questions, and they always had a good answer to it

                Oh, that’s good to know!

                I’ve been with my current employer for longer than I’ve been cycling to work, so I don’t have any other points of comparison.

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            5 months ago

            It would become normal if more people started riding to work and requesting it.

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        You can definitely work in an office job, bring your clothes in your bag and get changed at work.

        If that’s not your thing, catch PT. Nobody’s saying you have to do the cycling thing. But plenty of people ride into offices for work and wear their smart clothes just fine.

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        5 months ago

        But that’s just…straight-up not true? Just ride a little bit less intensely. It’s really not that bad. I’ve done it for years—including in a city far hotter and more humid than Brisbane.

        Or yeah, have a shower. It’s pretty easy. Most office buildings, schools, universities, and hospitals have EoT facilities. And you can skip the morning shower at home.

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      5 months ago

      Those are all legitimate reasons to not ride. Don’t be “that guy” who has to force his way of life on others to feel validated.