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    How about we stop caring what that clown has to say?

    I find it especially egregious the people who (rightfully) bash him, but continue to support his products such as Twitter and Tesla. Stop supporting him. Especially on Twitter. Advertisers have fled the platform. Some users have as well. If even 1/2 the people who claim to hate the guy just stopped using Twitter, the entire platform would collapse. Instead you people prop up that site by going to it.

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      People whine about how shitty the API has become and how shitty tech support is and how there’s no one to talk to when they run into bugs - yet they keep paying Musk $42,000 a month for that privilege.

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    Why report on that guy’s opinions as if they matter? He’s rich, not a voting rights expert.

    He’s a fascist, too, which people conveniently ignore because he’s rich and some of it might rub off on them.

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      For the same reason the opinion of someone like Rupert Murdoch matters. Its not about their viewpoint directly as an individual, its the fact they control massive platforms that can and do sway public opinions.

      In murdochs case he’s had an influential impact on British politics over the last 40 years and has used his media empire to act as a king maker.

      Musk isn’t as savvy or as intelligent as Murdoch but that doesn’t mean is influential position should be ignored.

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      I don’t like Elon Musk, but can you explain what makes him a fascist? I feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning.

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        I think eliminating voting rights for citizens without children is a fascist policy. Fascism is about enforcing a “correct” or “natural” hierarchy in society. Historically this has usually been about race, but has also included other factors (for example, disabled people were the first group targeted for extermination by the Nazis). For some of us, not having kids is a choice (and imo a valid one that shouldn’t be punished by the state). But this sounds like an easy way to discriminate against same-sex couples, and all fascist systems have a history of doing that.

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          Did Elon say whether I can vote if I adopt a kid?

          Do I get more votes with more kids?

          Also, if I had a kid and it died of cancer, would I also lose my voting rights?

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        I personally find Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco a good read. Fascism is really hard to pin down because it’s quite a wide category due to the different tendencies in history.

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          The War on Everyone by Robert Evans is another good one for our current situation, he draws and builds from Ecos definition there

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        It’s a fair question, but you’re probably getting downvoted because you “feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning”. People are throwing the term around a lot because of all the fascism, and the fact that you find the term more concerning than the actual fascism is a bad look.

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    Just stop giving this idiot attention, it’s what he gets off on. You’re all getting him off. If that’s what you’re into, fine but, if it’s not, you’re being taken advantage of.

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      Elon to Twitter execs - “Don’t you guys wanna get off with me? Just follow my lead guys, we’re gonna get off together.”

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    Crazy, out of touch billionaire has a crazy, unrealistic idea. Fucking stop the presses.

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    Welcome to the rise of aggressively pro-natalism billionaires, because it’s 2023 and we’re not imploding fast enough.

    Remember, you won’t have a seat on the transport to Mars. And if you ever get there, it will be to work the mines.

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    I disagree with his fundamental premise that people with children can see the interests of society better.

    I don’t have children, but I have heard from every possible source that once you have children they become your world.

    How is a person expected to reason clearly about the interest of millions of people when they are running an ancient biological program focused on the interests of a tiny family unit?

    edit: I once saw the argument that having family doens’t make you a better person. Having family makes you a ruthless user and taker on behalf of your family. Most of the stories you hear of people giving in to corruption, happen because those people can’t afford to lose their jobs, because they have mouths to feed. Once you have kids, you must choose whether you value your kids over your civic responsibility, or vice-versa.

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      People with children won’t have the time to research issues too deeply, and they will be sleep deprived for several years.

      They make better sheep.

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      There are plenty of people with children who vote against their children’s best interests.

      Edit: misread your disagree as agree

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    Not surprising anymore. The guy (like his father) has a insane breeding fetish. And never forget that his father groomed his own adopted daughter (that he know since she was a child) and has two kids with her 🤮.

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      Everyone supports freedom until people start choosing the wrong options.

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        it’s “you can get your model T in any color you want as long as it’s black” but for social policy. and let’s just say that i doubt elon’s version would be “as long as it’s black”

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      Because they like two things: money and power.

      If the people are free, they have less of both

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      I’m not having kids because billionaires have bribed, lobbied, and misinformed this country, and by extension the world, to the brink of ruin

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      It’s not random. Conservatives and religious fundamentalists are dramatically more likely to have children than progressives and other leftists.

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      in this case i don’t even think it’s representative of the average republican since he’s got like 9 children and probably thinks himself the second coming of jesus kkkrist who will bring humanity to a new life in free speech mars

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    Yeah, only the desperate, finantially dependent on shitty jobs to feed their youngling should vote. Only them and the wealthy people that provide said shitty jobs. That will surely save what little democracy is left. You know what? People that make as much money as Musk should not be allowed to vote or to donate in order to influence campaings. These dudes have no real nationality, they are not tied anywhere and don’t have the best interest of any nation at heart. Billionaires are practically a walking, talking, foreign power operating within your country’s borders with almost total impunity. A self-deluded eugenecist foreign power at that.

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      It’s been the same since the beginning. Thomas Jefferson complained about them too.

      “Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.”

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    People forget a huge side of this as well. It’s not just being financial able to have kids but physically able. More and more people now days are seeking fertility treatment and having fertility issues. According to elon, those people would not have the right to vote.

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      People who go to college and then university and then intern somewhere to get a junior position and then a senior position are in their mid 30s when they’re in a stable enough position to plan for kids.

      By contrast, a lot of people who are happy with a high school degree have kids before they’re 20.

      This is not a value judgment, but separating people by when they’re having kids segments the population of into very distinct strata.

      It’s not hard to guess why a billionaire who’s running a right-wing social media platform would prefer a certain demographic.

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        We waited until our 30s to have a child for a lot of reasons, and I’m glad we did it. We were more financially secure and had sowed our wild oats, so we were also not likely to go out and party. Elon was already financially secure when he had is first child. He has no idea how much a child costs in terms of money and in terms of what sort of life you want to live for most people.

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          I also doubt he’s done much child-raising, either. People of his social class don’t tend to be very involved with their kids, probably because they don’t have to be. Honestly I don’t blame them for that, but I do with they’d STFU about what all of us peons should be doing.

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    I like how he’s burning bridge after bridge with everyone. No one would want to associate with him, and everything he touches turns to shit. Sure he can enjoy his money, but to an extent he’s kinda screwed his venture start-up goodwill for life.