A key witness against former President Donald Trump and his two co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago documents case recanted previous false testimony and provided new information implicating the defendants after he switched lawyers, special counsel Jack Smith’s office said in a new court filing.

Yuscil Taveras, the director of information technology at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s club in Palm Beach, Florida, changed his testimony last month about efforts to delete security camera video at the club after he changed from a lawyer paid for by Trump’s Save America PAC to a public defender, Tuesday’s filing says.

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      Well considering Trump has a long history of not actually paying his employees, wouldn’t be surprised if this guy couldn’t afford it

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      On review of all the additional evidence and testimony, it became obvious to the prosecution that the key witness (“Trump Employee 4” - revealed by NBC News to be “Yuscil Taveras” - IT Director at Mar-a-Lago) in question had perjured himself in earlier grand jury testimony and that it was a conflict of interest for that witness to be represented by by the same attorney (Stanley Woodward) representing other involved clients.

      Prosecutors asked for a hearing on the representation issue before James Boasberg, the chief US District Court judge in Washington DC who oversaw the grand jury investigation.

      Judge Boasberg had a federal defender available to advise Taveras if requested, and Taveras did opt to change lawyers after he learned he was being investigated on suspicion of making false statements in previous grand jury testimony.

      So, TL/DR: he went with the public defender out of the immediacy and need for independent counsel and the only option available at that moment was the public defender who was pre-emptively made available by the Judge himself.

      I will speculate that he will be acquiring his own representation going forward.

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          I’m not high net worth and I’ve paid for attorneys. Don’t have to be high net worth to be able to pay for proper representation.

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            You do have to have money in the first place.

            Trump hates paying people.

            Also, this is a case that is likely to take a lot of time and require a lot of attorney time. A public defender is likely a more sound financial decision even for someone with a reasonable amount of savings. Why go into crippling debt defending yourself from a former president, when a public defender will do it on the tax payer dime.

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      Probably was offered immunity, but his Trump paid lawyer said no. So why spend money on a lawyer when you can get a public defender for free and then take the deal?

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      Perjury to advantage his other client. There has to be a law against lawyers doing that.

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        I mean that sounds like fraud to me, is there a form of malpractice that applies to Legal cases? Like a lawyer version of medical malpractice.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A key witness against former President Donald Trump and his two co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago documents case recanted previous false testimony and provided new information implicating the defendants after he switched lawyers, special counsel Jack Smith’s office said in a new court filing.

    Taveras decided to change lawyers after he learned he was being investigated on suspicion of having made false statements in his previous grand jury testimony in Washington, D.C., the court filing says.

    “When Trump Employee 4 testified before the grand jury in the District of Columbia in March 2023, he repeatedly denied or claimed not to recall any contacts or conversations about the security footage at Mar-a-Lago,” the filing says.

    By late June, prosecutors had “advised Trump Employee 4 (through Mr. Woodward) that he was the target of a grand jury investigation in the District of Columbia into whether he committed perjury.”

    Prosecutors asked for a hearing on the representation issue before James Boasberg, the chief U.S. District Court judge in Washington, D.C., who oversaw the grand jury investigation.

    Shelli Peterson — the first assistant federal public defender in Washington, whom the special counsel’s filing refers to — declined to comment Tuesday night.


    The original article contains 717 words, the summary contains 196 words. Saved 73%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Making Attorneys Get Attorneys.

    Not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure telling your client to lie is a No-No!

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      You could argue he wasn’t the guy’s lawyer

      who was being paid by the former president’s Save America PAC

      A lawyer represents whoever is the paying his bills.

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        Like I said, I’m not a lawyer. Still pretty sure that elling anyone to lie on the stand is a No-No.

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    So instead of being bought, he’s being extorted? Yeah that totally makes the current version of his story more valid… Throw this motherfucker off the witness stand and send him on his way, he’s either full of shit or he’s full of shit…

    Are we planning on indicting everyone who testifies for the defense on fraud charges? Is that how this shit works now? Tell me how this is an improvement over trump buying witnesses or slipping religious fervor inducing drugs into their food or whatever ye fuck he’s doing to get people to back up his bullshit?

    Indicting witnesses isn’t the fucking high road. Fuck trump, but fuck this bullshit too. This is exactly the sort of shit that “defund the police” types bemoan when it’s done to a nobody, but hey, as long as we get trump, it’s all fucking good… it’s fucking not good…

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      If the prosecution comes to a witness for the defense and says are you sure you want to stick with your story we have evidence that the opposite happened, that isn’t extortion. That is giving a witness the chance to tell the truth.

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        The whole point of being a witness is that you’re not supposed to lie, and if you lie you can be prosecuted for it. What’s even the point of the concept of perjury otherwise?

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          It is, and you should… most of the time.

          There are times where it is beneficial to let a witness know that you know they’re lying, giving them a chance to flip before you fry them, as the info they’re holding onto may very well be worth more than eliminating them as a witness entirely via perjury.

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      This is how criminal conspiracies work.

      The little guys are asked by the big guy to lie, but some flip to save their own skin.

      Stop trying to normalize Trump’s lawlessness.

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        These mafia tactics don’t belong in politics. I’m glad they recognized the guy was being forced to perjury.

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      That’s a lot of words to be wrong, friend-o.

      Saying “Are you sure you don’t want to revise your testimony, because we have factual evidence that it’s false and that may lead to an indictment for perjury.” isn’t extortion, it’s allowing this guy to not loyalty his way into a felony.

      Imagine, the police/prosecution use their discretion and don’t throw the book at someone and idiots still take exception to it

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        If the prosecution believes that perjury should be prosecuted, this mans second testimony should have put him in prison, because he either committed perjury previously, or is committing it now.

        That’s where I step off the bus and say “hey, this is fucked”. That’s the line for me. You can’t base an indictment off testimony that someone made under the auspices of that.

        I wildly disagree with it at the bottom too… the “let the little fish testify” isn’t better, and I don’t support that shit either. This is a little worse though… this fish is either lying or has lied, under oath. He’s factually proven that he’s committed perjury… If the prosecution is threatening him with perjury, they basically own him, because he’s factually demonstrably committed perjury based simply on the existence of two opposing testimonies…

        So “say this, or go to prison”. That’s fucking extortion.

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          But if they DON’T say anything he WILL go to prison for perjury anyway as they can already prove he’s lying, the only thing this does is give him a chance to avoid prison. That’s like literally the opposite of extortion, because the threat isn’t too hurt him, the “threat”, if anything, is to do nothing and let him go to jail. “If you tell the truth we will help you” isn’t extortion.

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            It’s not “if you tell the truth”… It’s “if you say what we say is the truth”…

            If there’s proof that what he’s going to testify to now is the truth, what the fuck do they need his testimony for? They have proof of this ostensible “truth” you’re claiming they want him to say, so why is it necessary to have a known liar testify?

            This is bullshit. I’m not fucking buying this. You can’t testify to something directly in opposition to a prior testimony and have any value whatsoever, period.

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              This is bullshit. I’m not fucking buying this. You can’t testify to something directly in opposition to a prior testimony and have any value whatsoever, period.

              Sure you can. Especially if he can bring receipts related to why he was lying. Threats, promises of compensation, etc. Is it ideal that he lied under oath? Of course not. And it opens a giant door for the defense to challenge all of his testimony but it’s not irrecoverable.

              Much as you seem to wish it was.

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                “And it opens a giant door for the defense to challenge all of his testimony but it’s not irrecoverable.”

                I just simply don’t agree on the irrecoverable part :) or more accurately, I don’t believe it’s worth the effort to “recover” evidence from a shitbag. Dudes a testimony for sale, nothing he has to say has any value as truth.

                “Much as you seem to wish it was.”

                I don’t wish that (I don’t really care much outside of wishing the word trump would gain some fucking obscurity… it’s like a really bad penny), I just don’t like that this entire process is pretty clearly a matter of politics rather than justice. It’s a political headhunt, and it’s very reminiscent of pre-collapse Soviet government. We’re trying to fill the gulags up in this motherfucker. I’m not really speaking in support of the defense, Im speaking against the witch hunt.

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                  I just don’t like that this entire process is pretty clearly a matter of politics rather than justice. It’s a political headhunt, and it’s very reminiscent of pre-collapse Soviet government. We’re trying to fill the gulags up in this motherfucker. I’m not really speaking in support of the defense, Im speaking against the witch hunt.

                  You have really jumped the shark, friend. This is anything but a politically-motivated protection. And your allusion to Soviet Russia is comical, in a world where Putin blew up a rival last month.

                  Trump brought us as close to the collapse of American democracy as we have been since the Civil War, and arguably closer. It’s hard to deny there were two plots to replace Mike Pence before the election was certified: a subgroup of the protesters wanted to hang him, and part of the Secret Service detail was ready to escort/detain him away from the capital. They didn’t even try to hide it - Grassley said he planned on presiding over the Senate. They walked it back, but it happened.

                  If this were truly a political witch-hunt, Trump would be either incarcerated for life already, or dead and buried.

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      I don’t understand. Isn’t the way not to be suspected of perjury just not to lie to the court in the first place? It doesn’t seem like extortion to me.

      I think this was due to the conflict of interest by the old lawyer, who probably told this witness, “Just say you didn’t see anything or don’t remember and you’ll be fine.”

      It turned out it wasn’t fine and the guy found a new lawyer. This new lawyer is being a zealous advocate and trying to keep this guy out of jail.

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      Tell me how this is an improvement over trump buying witnesses or slipping religious fervor inducing drugs into their food or whatever ye fuck he’s doing to get people to back up his bullshit?

      It’s simply about the truth. Merely stating the truth “Are you sure that is going to be your sworn testimony because we have evidence that proves otherwise and lying to a court of law will get you jail time” is not extortion. Not even close.

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      Lol being extorted.

      We should go and give those justice department employees the courage to do the right thing. Just march over there and give them the courage. They just need fucking courage to do the right thing. Someone fucking give them the courage.

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      Sounds like he got a good lawyer instead of one funded to protect only Trump and nobody else.

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      Seems like the opposite to me. Like he was coerced to lie for his old boss due to the circumstances, especially from being dependant from the legal fund. The prosecutor gave him an out and a chance to break fealty from trump. He probably lied because he thought it was the only way out, and his testimony could be valuable after realizing it is not.

      You have to realize that this is how criminal organizations work. The members end up being dependant on the leader and they’re scared to tell the truth. It is doubly so when you’re very own lawyer is being hired by the mob boss. What a messed up system.

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      Are we planning on indicting everyone who testifies for the defense on fraud charges?

      We should indict everyone who lies to a Grand Jury actually. Not sure why this is controversial to you

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      If they’re lying, and you can prove it, you prosecute them for perjury…

      But if you suspect they’ve got important info, them perjurying them would be a waste. It would be more beneficial to let a witness know that you know they’re lying before you prosecute. Give them a chance to straighten out their story, potentially giving you a much larger win than if you’d simply removed them as a witness via perjury. That’s exactly what they’ve done here

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      The level of ideological brain worming demonstrated by your post is impressive. Do you ever have doubts, or is this all performative and it’s just larping?