(I’m sure it will shock none of you who aren’t already familiar with him that he conned himself onto Rogan.)

Not to rain on Jimmy’s parade, because I’m sure he’s “done his research,” but the Bible says that the Ark landed on the Mountains of Ararat, which is not the same thing as Mount Ararat. The connection with the mountain in Turkey didn’t start until the middle ages.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    602·
    5 months ago

    Or, the end of the mini-ice-age resulted in flooding that equated to a rise of something like 20 stories (as in building levels) of water in lower regions including the Fertile Crescent. It would make sense that the first (known) civilizations would have great flood myths because their lands were wiped out during their lifetimes. Did the entire world flood? From their perspective yes. From that of geologists, no.

    Edit: Oh, and I want to cancel all religions. Christianity isn’t special.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
      251·
      5 months ago

      The sea level rise at the end of the Younger Dryas would have been virtually imperceptible to the people living through it.

      Flood myths are because people generally settle near large bodies of water and large bodies of water can flood, sometimes catastrophically.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        62·
        5 months ago

        The Fall of Civilizations podcast indicated that there was a period of rapid rise in sea levels around Mesopotamia, but if you have reason to disagree with the host I’ll defer. I don’t know their background beyond being a good storyteller.

        • water@lemmy.world
          7·
          5 months ago

          That podcast episode (which is great) said the rise was about a 2.5cm per year (or 0.3m/day horizontally). Not that rapid.

          Minutes 23-30 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/8-the-sumerians-fall-of-the-first-cities/id1449884495?i=1000454904678

        • kbin_space_program@kbin.run
          5·
          5 months ago

          As I understood that one, it was localized to the Black Sea or Mediterranean and based on blockages to their connecting channels to larger bodies of water. But last I heard of that was a long time ago.

            • kbin_space_program@kbin.run
              3·
              5 months ago

              Okay yeah.
              For everyone else, what we’re talking about is a theory that the Black Sea has a few points in history where the regions monumental earthquakes caused landslides that blocked(and maybe later cleared, or it cleared naturally) the Bosporus. When it was blocked, the sea swelled and flooded.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
                2·
                5 months ago

                However, the Black Sea deluge hypothesis, which is far from a consensus view, would have happened a couple of thousand years before civilization began in Mesopotamia.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis

                The believers in “this created the Ark story” will tell you that it was 2000 years of oral history. Occam’s razor tells me that a civilization built between two rivers tends to experience flooding.