The “no civilians were injured” is coming from Awoo pulling quotes out of the links and “it was a violent mob that needed to be stopped by any means” is from Nakoichi. Both of them are my interpretations of what they said, only slightly exaggerated.
If you’re going to say that I said no civilians were injured at least do the courtesy of pinging me so I can send you this link to read
Seriously though. Don’t say things that I did not say.
The point made by everyone discussing this topic is not that there were no deaths, it’s that the western narrative about the topic is in fact entirely a lie. There was no “massacre” of poor unarmed students at Tiananmen in the square as is popularly lied about by redditors.
There were no tanks running people over. As is popularly lied about by redditors posting that stupid picture of a bunch of bicycles on the floor either.
What ACTUALLY happened at Tiananmen was that a combination of communists and liberals got led on by people that WANTED to see a massacre happen. They intended for everyone there to die that day, we even have interview proof of that.
What ACTUALLY happened was that a protest got wildly out of hand because leadership wanted it to. They hanged and burned alive two unarmed police officers, and then the protest was broken up. What then transpired across several kilometers were various different sporadic battles between armed protestors and the PLA. Resulting in several hundred deaths.
This is corroborated by western eyewitnesses that I’ve linked and showed you.
The point of this topic is not to deny that deaths happened. It is to correct the story, the lie that is told is one of an utterly cartoonishly evil crackdown on peaceful protestors resulting in a massacre of innocent students that were gunned down in cold blood in the square. But the reality I’ve just told you is VERY different and the emotional reaction anyone should have to it should be extremely different to that of the lie. The lie is perpetuated in order to claim China is evil, that this event was evil, this is very far from the truth and once people open their eyes to how much this particular event has been lied about it starts to make them question what else has been lied about or exaggerated to the extreme.
Worth adding, to clear up a point of possible confusion — There is no evidence for deaths in the square itself. There were deaths elsewhere in the city that night, but these were violent clashes in which soldiers also died, and the death toll was in the low hundreds, not thousands. This is what we’re all saying in this thread.
If you’re going to say that I said no civilians were injured at least do the courtesy of pinging me so I can send you this link to read
Seriously though. Don’t say things that I did not say.
The point made by everyone discussing this topic is not that there were no deaths, it’s that the western narrative about the topic is in fact entirely a lie. There was no “massacre” of poor unarmed students at Tiananmen in the square as is popularly lied about by redditors.
There were no tanks running people over. As is popularly lied about by redditors posting that stupid picture of a bunch of bicycles on the floor either.
What ACTUALLY happened at Tiananmen was that a combination of communists and liberals got led on by people that WANTED to see a massacre happen. They intended for everyone there to die that day, we even have interview proof of that.
What ACTUALLY happened was that a protest got wildly out of hand because leadership wanted it to. They hanged and burned alive two unarmed police officers, and then the protest was broken up. What then transpired across several kilometers were various different sporadic battles between armed protestors and the PLA. Resulting in several hundred deaths.
This is corroborated by western eyewitnesses that I’ve linked and showed you.
The point of this topic is not to deny that deaths happened. It is to correct the story, the lie that is told is one of an utterly cartoonishly evil crackdown on peaceful protestors resulting in a massacre of innocent students that were gunned down in cold blood in the square. But the reality I’ve just told you is VERY different and the emotional reaction anyone should have to it should be extremely different to that of the lie. The lie is perpetuated in order to claim China is evil, that this event was evil, this is very far from the truth and once people open their eyes to how much this particular event has been lied about it starts to make them question what else has been lied about or exaggerated to the extreme.
Worth adding, to clear up a point of possible confusion — There is no evidence for deaths in the square itself. There were deaths elsewhere in the city that night, but these were violent clashes in which soldiers also died, and the death toll was in the low hundreds, not thousands. This is what we’re all saying in this thread.