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      The post mentions Meloni who is nationalist (and was even fascist not too long ago). That, driven by nationalist parties, many European parties, not only conservatives, are drifting away further and further into populism is one effect of the problem of normalising populism and nationalism by the media.

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      I’m sorry but this really doesn’t apply to a lot of European political landscapes. In Germany for example the biggest conservative party, CDU, is still very much just annoyingly “conservative”, but definitely not “licking the gunpowder residue out of the bullet hole in Hilter’s decaying skull”.

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        And the conservative German nazi party (AFD) is in second place in E.U. elections right now. The conservative plague is on the rise globally, including in Europe.

        Conservatives are fascists. The more conservative one is, the more fascist one is.

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          Not arguing with that, just took issue with calling all moderate-conservatives Nazis because no matter how much I dislike them, that’s just not true.

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          And the conservative German nazi party AfD is in second place in E.U. elections right now.

          FIFY. Since several years, the AfD is no longer a conservative party.

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            They are deeply conservative. The more conservative one gets, the more fascist one gets.

            AFD didn’t just suddenly abandon their conservative ideologies as they became more nationalist. Their conservatism is baked into their core ideology. Even they will tell you they are conservative. They are on the completely opposite end of the spectrum from progressives.

            Conservatism is the very foundation upon which fascism is built. Conservatism is a spectrum. This is how they can convince some moderate conservatives to vote for them. They share the same values; they just lean further to the right than moderate conservatives on some issues.

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        Yeah, we have a couple sane right wing parties here in Denmark too, including all three of the current coalition government (one of which calls itself center left, but has been center right to right wing on most issues for a couple decades now), as well as some extremist ones to the right of those.

        “The farthest right/most conservative influential parties of all European countries” would be pretty fair though, what with frightening numbers of people voting for AFD, whatever Nigel Farage’s current party is called etc…

        To be simultaneously fair and insulting, though, they might only be able to name the extremist ones 🤷