• helopigs@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If you really want to understand their perspective, consider an analogous argument involving some other fundamental human right, ideally one that you strongly support.

    An easy one is free speech. Many countries without this right believe it is dangerous and stupid, using a litany of rational assertions and examples to justify themselves.

    Consider all of the harm caused by people spreading lies and propaganda. The right to free speech ensures the most evil ideas and people can utilize our most powerful social constructs to attack the very foundations that a stable society depends on. etc…

    Every right can be abused, and likewise an argument can be formulated against them based on their potential for abuse. Those that support some right typically believe the benefits outweigh the costs.

    Hope this helps.

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      4 months ago

      Do you honestly think everyone having access to a firearm is a “fundamental human right”?

      Because… it very much isn’t.

      For more about those, you can read on

      https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights

      And here, in a listed format, and you’ll very much notice the absence of being armed.

      https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/universal-declaration-of-human-rights/

      Let’s take article 3 as an example of a fundamental human right.

      Everyone has the right to life (and to live in freedom and safety).

      Do you think the US would manage to better protect that right if they accepted the actual science on the issue, rhe one which proves people would be safer and there’d be less gun violence if reasonable regulation was instilled on a national level?

      Hope this helps, because people like you need to be helped so we can help ensure better fundamental human rights in the US.

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        4 months ago

        I’m not trying to argue with you.

        It seemed that you were trying to make sense of the gun nut mindset. Gun nuts do indeed think firearm ownership is a fundamental human right, so considering it as such is necessary to understand their perspective.

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          4 months ago

          No no, I’m not trying understand anything here. I’m displaying how delusional gun nuts are, for example by thinking unlimited access to firearms is a “human right”? I mean I know the education in the US is bad, but that’s just… next level bad.