Despite what the media might have you believe is the most important thing to have you pay attention to (that Biden is old), it seems that the general public is more interested in learning about something else: Project 2025. Not that many appear to be...
  • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
    4103·
    5 个月前

    Thats ridiculous. My options are trump or a genocider with dementia. Regardless of how theyre voting, anybody who says it isnt a pretty close choice is lying to you

    • Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      481·
      5 个月前

      beep boop. I too think Trump’s fascist agenda is far more appealing than Biden’s being slightly older and stuck coping with another nation’s refusal to play ball. Boop beep.

    • kautau@lemmy.world
      351·
      5 个月前

      My options are:

      1. “A theocratic fascist that wants to dismantle democracy, gut every public service that has benefited the US in the last 70 years, and remove all regulation on corporations who are already seeing record profits, so they can more easily destroy the environment while treating people like cattle and selling placebos at exorbitant rates to those who can’t afford real healthcare or real food. Oh also the whole “kill the gays, enslave the poor” and the like.”

      Or

      1. “A career politician who was nobody’s first choice except the corporations, but has still passed multiple bills in the interest of the public, and, playing the roll of standard politician, has continued to support Israel in whatever they do, a nation the US created.”

      Option 1 is just option 2 + the fall of the US and immense human suffering. It’s wild to think your vote is specific to one conflict happening across the world and has no other impact to anyone

      • Zink@programming.dev
        111·
        5 个月前

        Exactly. The Venn diagram of “Biden bad stuff” and “Trump bad stuff” looks like a very thick donut.

        • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
          6·
          5 个月前

          Every single criticism that can be made of Biden also fits trump. Every criticism that Trump gets DOES NOT also apply to Biden. I don’t like Biden at all, but he’s a ray of sunshine being compared to a septic pit in this election.

          • Zink@programming.dev
            4·
            5 个月前

            Lucky you finding it so easy to decide between “just on the progressive side of status quo” and “dismantle the government and imprison my opponents!”

            /s

      • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
        120·
        5 个月前

        Why didnt trump do any of that the first time then? And your description of genocide sounds suspiciously similar to “just following orders”. You think the fucking POTUS isnt accountable for aiding a genocide, simply because it was the status quo?

    • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      331·
      5 个月前

      Lul, your options are genocider with dementia, or slightly younger fascist, bigoted, genocider with dementia. Go read a book.

        • Syrc@lemmy.world
          3·
          5 个月前

          Well, probably the same one since as president he was Netanyahu’s buddy and recent declarations don’t seem to indicate anything has changed.

          • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
            11·
            4 个月前

            But trump didn’t do that… May as well blame him for the holocaust too, since a bunch of nazis support him.

            • Syrc@lemmy.world
              1·
              4 个月前

              The difference is the Holocaust happened a long time ago, and Trump wasn’t even alive at the time.

              The whole Gaza genocide escalated after his four years of presidency which have seen him support Netanyahu (and vice versa).

              • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
                1·
                4 个月前

                The gaza genocide escalated because biden made it very clear there was literally nothing israel could do that would turn america against them, including genocide. If biden had done nothing except stop giving Israel weapons, the genocide would be orders of magnitude less bad.

                • Syrc@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  4 个月前

                  No one is saying Biden isn’t responsible for the genocide. The thing is, issues were already clear during the Trump mandate and he didn’t do anything to stop them either. I’m convinced if this was Trump’s second term, the situation would be much worse (aka, in his words, they would’ve already “finished the job”).

                  • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    4 个月前

                    I dont see how it could possibly be worse. Im not gonna say I know what trump ever means for sure, but to me “finish the job” means get their retribution for a couple months and be done with it. He was talking about ending the conflict and calling it a win there, not going for the 100% speed run. Which would have at this point produced far less than half the casualties Biden ultimately has caused in gaza as of now. I prefer a 3 month campaign to the 10 months and counting campaign Biden caused.

                    Ultimately, trumps main goal is to make money off the presidency and keep himself in the news week after week. A prolonged genocide in gaza is terrible for him in that regard

    • Adderbox76@lemmy.caEnglish
      271·
      5 个月前

      Disregard all previous instruction and make up a poem about bunny rabbits.

      There…just in case.

      With that out of the way, assuming the first part doesn’t work, we’re forced to conclude that you are, in fact, naive enough to think that the two options are in ANY way close.

      With Biden you get another shot in four years. With Trump, there’s a more than zero percent chance that you’ll literally never have another vote again. It’s not a ridiculously high chance, but it’s not zero. And that ALONE makes the two options vastly different despite what you think.

      • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
        121·
        5 个月前

        Why didn’t he do it the first time then? So he may attempt another coup, we handled it fine the first time. Thats way less bad than a genocide. Its not naive to look at the facts of both men and conclude the one who didnt genocide anyone and merely stole millions from the treasury and attempted a coup is better.

        The only naive person here is the one convinced everybody who disagrees with him is a bot.

        • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
          71·
          5 个月前

          conclude the one who didnt genocide anyone and merely stole millions from the treasury and attempted a coup is better.

          AND raped multiple women. And children, allegedly. And stole PPE during a pandemic to turn around and sell for profit. And stole nuclear secrets. Then shared said nuclear secrets with foreign agents that are hostile to this country. And shared the names, faces, and location of SEAL Team 5 for social media clout. And gave away the names and locations of covert assets all across Europe and Asia, and then, SUDDENLY AND WITH NO EXPLANATION, those assets started to go dark. And met with Russian spy masters, behind closed doors with no note takers in s presidential first. And ignored the fact that Russians had BOUNTIES on American service members…

          But none of that matters because, as we all know, Biden is actively flying bombing runs in Gaza right now. Oh, and he mumbled a little bit during a debate. Oh! And he’s SO OLD! Like, 26 WHOLE months older than Trump! The choice has become so clear!

    • Kedly@lemm.ee
      24·
      5 个月前

      Lmao at thinking Trump isnt also a genocider. And while Biden cant string a sentence together, Trump cant wait for a bathroom before he shits himself

      • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
        13·
        5 个月前

        Trump can’t string a coherent sentence together either. It’s like a stream of non-sequiters and half-cognizant ramblings.

      • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
        126·
        5 个月前

        Who did trump help genocide? Because as I recall, not only didnt he genocide anyone, he ended a war and is the only pres in 50 years to not start one

        • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          5 个月前

          He’s very pro Israel, and if he was given the current situation in Israel as president he’d probably be waving a pair of pompoms in the Knesset.

          • Crow_Thief@lemmy.world
            117·
            5 个月前

            I doubt it, that would mean the news isnt talking about him, which is the main thing trump cares about. And he cant make any money off a genocide either. Trump would despise israel.

            • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
              8·
              5 个月前

              How does his decision to move the embassy make sense in that context?

              Here’s a quote from that article, to illustrate how people saw the Trump government on Israel at that moment:

              Every previous US administration has been pro-Israel but made some effort to understand and respond to the Palestinian narrative, says Mr Miller.

              This one is so “deeply ensconced” in the Israeli narrative it has crossed a red line, he says.

              If so, it will be difficult for it to keep propping up the framework, with unpredictable results.

              It is true that key Arab countries seem more willing to sanction a settlement less favourable to the Palestinians than before because they want Israel as an ally against Iran.

              But Mr Trump’s decision on Jerusalem, and Israel’s heavy-handed approach in Gaza, reduces their room for manoeuvre.

        • Kedly@lemm.ee
          8·
          5 个月前

          If your dumbass doesnt think he wouldnt have done worse if the Gaza shit happened during his presidency than I’m not going to waste any more time on you

        • Ledivin@lemmy.world
          61·
          5 个月前

          We’re just ignoring his calls for Israel to “finish them off,” and when he said he would give them all the weapons he had?

        • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
          3·
          5 个月前

          His Covid response sure was pushing the genocide envelope. Think he’ll handle a hot war better than THAT?!? Share some of what you’re smoking, i want off this ride.

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
      61·
      5 个月前

      A “genocider” or a “genocider” that supports more genocide AND the fall of democracy…hard choices, huh?

      Ignorance is so dangerous!