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We'll you're pointing out how ridiculous it is to believe in a free market. Because one has never existed. What ought we subsidize though? Obviously foods that are better for our environment, climate, health, economy and for animal welfare.

Dairy, meat and egg coalitions have known for years that subsidies and marketing are things they need to pursue for greater success, they've used tactics similar to tobacco companies with their marketing and they've used lobbying tactics similar to oil and gas giants as well. It's clear we need to stop subsidizing them.

Yes

That's not the utilitarianism I mean

I wish it had swipe to up vote and downvote but other than that I love the aesthetics.

On a visual level, we are more interested in genitals than hands? Also, faces.

Switched not to long ago and the reader mode is a lifesaver as well

What do you think about utilitarianism?

I’m getting the sense that some of these commentors are the same person.

I saw this video recently and honestly Hasan puts it best.

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Going to need some sauce for that one.

The LOTR show that they spend a cool billion on is awful as well…

It’s hard to comprehend from the inside. This country is full of traumatizing shit that’s really hard to face.

I think you might be confusing representative democracy with capitalism.

I recently switched and I’m really enjoying the reader mode. Also, I highly recommend revanced for YouTube. (⁠⁠´⁠ω⁠｀⁠⁠)

I’m a sucker for Sauce Stache.

Amazing videos about vegan alternatives to meat; he tries everything and it’s so delicious looking and he’s got a great personality. He also goes deep with a variety of mushrooms which opened my eyes a bit. I’ve been wanting to get my hands on a lobster mushroom ever since I saw this one.

Also the chicken of the woods one is great.

And another random coming video I watched that changed my cooking was this one about knife skills for cutting food.

• and the bonus onion video from Gordon Ramsay and

That first one most certainly does sound like an exaggeration, or at least an outlier. And in the context of this discussion it implies a false equivalence that anyone who thinks that our teeth look more like an herbivore’s than an omnivore or carnivore’s and takes from that that we should eat more vegetables, also thinks that you’re as bad as hitler or a nazis for eating meat.

But maybe one of us is misunderstanding. I certainly do think that the millions of animals being killed without a justified reason is a type of Holocaust. Sure, it’s not humans, but I think it’s a fair conclusion to come to. Regardless of if you’d call it that, can you see how all of this unnecessary death and torture is incredibly unethical? It doesn’t seem extreme to me if that’s what these vegans are saying.

Secondly, do you not think there is a similarity between fighting for the civil rights of humans and fighting for the rights of animals? I don’t think that’s a racist statement at all, and you know what? I think anyone who says it is racist is either actively trying to undermine the argument with adhominem or is simply too dumb to realize that’s what the person they heard say it originally was trying to do.

A lot of people lie about these questions. More are willing to admit it now but it’s still lower than I 'd expect.

Vegan extremists, you say? What other views do these extreme individuals hold?

I’m guessing it’s not that we should be murdering humans for any reason.