I literally asked how to make people not act that way and said it is what would save the world.

No one that responded had an answer to how to implement the “solution” of getting people to have “the right thought process.” Conspiratorial thinking isn’t new. Simply saying people should be properly educated isn’t proposing an actual solution, it’s stating the obvious.

My point was that, until there is an actionable solution to achieve that result (which we are still struggling with as a species) I don’t have an issue with fighting fire with fire.

It’s fine to propose abstract ideas. The reason we are where we are as a species is that no one is able to put them into practice.

Edit to add example:

In the example the mom is an anti vaxer. The Dr. tricks her into vaxing kid. Kid grows up and can’t reconcile mom’s crazy ideas with her contrary actions. Kids starts questioning mom’s sanity. Kid starts searching for answers. Kid joins this community on lemmy. Kid sees this conversation. Kid says that’s what happened to me. Kid abandons conspiracies.

Or we as a species could simply tell mentally ill people they are mentally ill and expect the mentally ill brain to make a non mentally ill decision.

I’m not playing anything. You can read it. You are responding to statements and arguments I am not making.

If your argument was “your comment is outside the scope of this community” than make that argument.

Be well.

So you are characterizing my comment about using any means possible to vaccinate an innocent child that is unable to speak for themselves and is at danger die due to a mentally unstable parent’s belief with ruthless and immoral behavior?

How do you characterize letting that same child die because they are not vaccinated?

Edit: typo

Why

Can’t tell if you mean that as a good or bad thing.

What solution? I said I don’t have one.

I thought about that after I posted. Seems like a good shower thoughts post. I think you are correct.

I appreciate your response and bring receipts. If I knew how to cross post I would credit you when using this information in the future.

That’s a non answer. I never said conspiratorial thinking was helping the world. (However, in the example given it appears that it may have.)

What I asked was how do we implement your solution. It’s all well and good to point out problems. But if that problem is unavoidable it becomes the cost of doing business. I take your non answer to mean you don’t have one. That’s fine. I don’t either. In the example given a good result was achieved via a less than ideal way.

While we wait for the way to implement your solution I am willing to accept getting innocent children vaccinated by any means possible.

Out of curiosity what makes twitter less bad than FB? I don’t have enough information to rank. It seems like the king twit is more overt with his intentions while Zuck likes to play it closer to the vest. In reality it’s probably different sides of the same coin

I see. You enjoy the illusion of being connected without actually connecting. That’s what unsolicited holiday cards used to be for. I guess FB is at least an improvement from an environmental standpoint.

My phone works well for that

How? A correct answer saves the world.

Edit: The most frustrating thing about this entire thread is that I wanted to have a conversation about implementing actual on the ground solutions to countering conspiracy theories and the response was to shut down the conversation.

In an attempt to answer my own question, maybe the solution to getting people to escape conspiracy theories is to avoid personal attacks (you’re Machiavelli) and other rhetorical devices and actually have a conversation divorced from ego about a topic.

If only there was a community for that?

For anyone still on FB, why? What is the benefit?

I wonder how many federal agents they will use for his perp walk?

Watch The Murder of Fred Hampton, and tell me how it’s not currently being done by those in power.

I love your naivety where you think that just because they don’t kill you or your loved ones, because you’re (likely) part of the accepted group, it’s ok to ignore the fact that they kill all the people you don’t care to think about.

(I have no idea who you are. I just think the counter point to your point is equally valid and deserves consideration)

I have no idea why people are still on FB. I am only on here and don’t seem to be missing out on anything important.

My original comment implied that the world sent a plague in response to Trump. Having trouble understanding the relevance of your comment. But nice try at a point.

I know reading is hard. You need to group letters to form words and words to form sentences. Take breaks when confused. Use ice or aspirin for any headaches.

I don’t think you can think of it as some sort of logical plan. It’s a bug, not a feature, of capitalism. What you are describing is the inevitable end of a completely free market with no regulation. The strong (economically) keep taking from the weak until we have the situation you are describing. From there the next step is dependent upon whether the weak form a cohesive identity and seize power (revolution) or stay fractured around smaller identity cleavages (race, religion, gender, etc) and are subjugated.

Per the CDC

“January 20, 2020

CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state and on the same day activates its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to respond to the emerging outbreak.“

I guess the first time around the world was just as surprised that there were enough morons to elect him. This time the world was more on the ball.