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  • You don’t consider Barbary raids an act of war?

    assuming i did, declaring war just so you can capture whites to sell as slaves seems kind of oppress-y to me

    given that the point of contention here is whether or not it was ultimately because they were white or because they were non-muslim, i’m not sure what point you’re trying to make by re-classifying piracy as an act of war?

    Capitalize Black.

    i didn’t use any capital letters in my response, including on “muslim” which you’d capitalize for the same reasons you’re arguing to capitalize “black”

    also, your linked source says to capitalize “white”, which you’ve done at no point so far

    And “Yes.” on both counts.

    i feel like we’ve hit bedrock then

    i’m not sure how to convince you that pirate raids that went all the way to iceland just to avoid “muslims” probably wouldn’t raid a settlement consisting of black non-muslims

    You can’t change race by reciting The Shahada.

    i feel like you’re intentionally missing my point here

    And irrespective anything you have said white people have never been oppressed for being white

    you restating a thing doesn’t make that thing true though…?

    not really sure there’s much point in going on further with this since it seems like we have pretty different reads on the topic at hand that aren’t going to be brought into alignment through further discussion


  • war captives and society-wide anti-Blackness actualizing in dehumanization and chattel enslavement

    where are you getting “war captives”?

    If a captured ship had white and non-white non-muslims on it, do you imagine only the white non-muslims would be enslaved and everyone else let go?

    i imagine instances probably occurred both ways

    do you think a captured ship with only black non-muslims on it would’ve been captured in the first place?

    do you think a coastal settlement with a population of only black non-muslims would’ve been raided for slaves?

    Further, your comment about albinism proves you understand race to be a social construct.

    if race didn’t exist, american chattel slavery still would’ve done, because the social construct is invented afterwards to justify the act

    the same appears to be true here, just with “non-muslim” being the back-engineered justification