• ravhall
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    3 months ago

    I think if people actually watched the movie they’d understand what it really is.

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        3 months ago

        Have you seen the movie for which this phrase is named?

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          3 months ago

          yes but I was refering to the definition of the commentator that you commented to. I mean in the movie he was actually taking her stuff and saying she lost it and such.

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            3 months ago

            There is only one definition.

            The term “gaslight” comes from the 1944 film Gaslight, which was based on the 1938 play Gas Light by Patrick Hamilton. In the movie, a husband manipulates his wife into doubting her own sanity by dimming the gas lights in their home and then denying that the lights are changing. The term “gaslighting” now refers to a form of psychological manipulation where someone makes another person question their reality.

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              I get that and I was refer to what cuerdo had as not true he had as part " denying something the other person knows is true" which is what I see people doing. I feel something you say is against what I know is true and so your gaslighting. Its actually sorta turned around because its about someone lying about things they know are not true and manipulating things to make their lies seem truthful.

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                3 months ago

                The only way it would be gaslighting is if the dems were questioning their own comments.

                And they aren’t.

                He’s just being a hypocritical lying dick. Not the same thing.

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                  The only way it would be gaslighting is if the dems were questioning their own comments.

                  The attempt at gaslighting doesn’t need to be successful for it to be called gaslighting

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                    3 months ago

                    It’s not gaslighting. It’s just hypocrisy.

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                  3 months ago

                  yeah I was never even commenting on the appropriateness of using it with vance but I think often they know they are lying and do try to manipulate the narrative. In this instance its hard to say but im willing to say they do it overall.