there should be no decorations on municipal crosswalks
You could make an argument that crosswalks should be painted a standard colour with expected markings, since it’s a safety/accessibility issue that that point.
or displaying of flags supporting political, social, or religious movements or commercial entities
The people who put the package together lumped everything into the same category.
Sure, we should NOT have religious flags on our government buildings. By that token, we should remove any and all religion from those buildings and any texts, too. No mention of God, especially.
Commercial entities? Yeah, they don’t belong on government flag poles.
Political? I’d need an example. I would not want to see the flag of various parties on a government building. That’s just inappropriate.
But social movements? They stay. I WANT my local, provincial, and federal governments to show support for marginalized groups. That includes our LGBTQ, indigenous, disabled, visible minorities, etc.
I’m proud to see our local fire and police vehicles with rainbow flag stickers on them.
Separate the hate from the reasonable, and this petition might not seem so ass backwards.
only national, provincial, and municipal flags should be flown at municipal facilities or flagpoles
I know this is pretty off-topic, but I found this part funny when one of my municipal Councillors proposed a similar bylaw (which thankfully failed). In Canada, municipal governments are creatures of the province, and the provinces have entered into confederation. By their logic, we shouldn’t be flying Canadian flags as the country has no direct relation to the municipality.
Here in India, our police barracades have the names of banks on them. Its advertising revenue, but to me it looks like “the police are brought to you by…”
But, really, economic capture means its the same thing
It’s a “mostly reasonable” petition that will get “mostly reasonable” people to support it. In fact, it is a direct, deliberate, methodical attack on the LGBTQ2+ community, and aimed at making them feel unsafe.
If we were going to call this reasonable and ban all religious iconography from the government, then we shouldn’t be allowed to sing God Save the King or O Canada on government property. (“God keep our land/Glorious and Free” since 1980).
But social movements? They stay. I WANT my local, provincial, and federal governments to show support for marginalized groups. That includes our LGBTQ, indigenous, disabled, visible minorities, etc.
This is how you end up with thin blue line flags and other dog whistle neo Nazi flags hanging at the court house.
Because, many will argue, the white male is now a minority thats being oppressed…
Because, many will argue, the white male is now a minority thats being oppressed…
At 49.8% or some similarly dumb number, the facts are there. And I’ve seen advertisements for jobs etc that say my genetic mix isn’t welcome, like being French is a choice or being left-handed. The components of reverse sexism are there.
I hope that if I learn to cope with minor disadvantage, that we can keep the equality movement as an equality movement and not some revenge play where I get penalized too often for something I wasn’t a part of.
There. I know my own opinion smells like virtue signalling while it also doesn’t placate people who’ve been hurt and want payba-uh, justice. Ironically I’ll be downvoted to hell for promoting equality, I expect.
You could make an argument that crosswalks should be painted a standard colour with expected markings, since it’s a safety/accessibility issue that that point.
The people who put the package together lumped everything into the same category.
Sure, we should NOT have religious flags on our government buildings. By that token, we should remove any and all religion from those buildings and any texts, too. No mention of God, especially.
Commercial entities? Yeah, they don’t belong on government flag poles.
Political? I’d need an example. I would not want to see the flag of various parties on a government building. That’s just inappropriate.
But social movements? They stay. I WANT my local, provincial, and federal governments to show support for marginalized groups. That includes our LGBTQ, indigenous, disabled, visible minorities, etc.
I’m proud to see our local fire and police vehicles with rainbow flag stickers on them.
Separate the hate from the reasonable, and this petition might not seem so ass backwards.
They’re adding a few reasonable sounding points to their argument to make the whole thing sound like a rational proposal.
I know this is pretty off-topic, but I found this part funny when one of my municipal Councillors proposed a similar bylaw (which thankfully failed). In Canada, municipal governments are creatures of the province, and the provinces have entered into confederation. By their logic, we shouldn’t be flying Canadian flags as the country has no direct relation to the municipality.
Here in India, our police barracades have the names of banks on them. Its advertising revenue, but to me it looks like “the police are brought to you by…”
But, really, economic capture means its the same thing
Oh god. Like a sports team? LOL
Yes.
You are falling exactly into their snare.
It’s a “mostly reasonable” petition that will get “mostly reasonable” people to support it. In fact, it is a direct, deliberate, methodical attack on the LGBTQ2+ community, and aimed at making them feel unsafe.
If we were going to call this reasonable and ban all religious iconography from the government, then we shouldn’t be allowed to sing God Save the King or O Canada on government property. (“God keep our land/Glorious and Free” since 1980).
This is absolutely hate-based, make no mistake.
Make no mistake. I understand exactly the game they are playing.
I would NOT sign a petition like this, even if I agree with most of it.
Because I completely understand that the true motive is to remove flags that support marginalised groups in our country.
But you are correct that they idea of including reasonable points, is exactly to attract reasonable people or to legitimise the rest of it.
Very well said. I’m saving this one because I’ll never do better with my own brain.
This is how you end up with thin blue line flags and other dog whistle neo Nazi flags hanging at the court house.
Because, many will argue, the white male is now a minority thats being oppressed…
At 49.8% or some similarly dumb number, the facts are there. And I’ve seen advertisements for jobs etc that say my genetic mix isn’t welcome, like being French is a choice or being left-handed. The components of reverse sexism are there.
I hope that if I learn to cope with minor disadvantage, that we can keep the equality movement as an equality movement and not some revenge play where I get penalized too often for something I wasn’t a part of.
There. I know my own opinion smells like virtue signalling while it also doesn’t placate people who’ve been hurt and want payba-uh, justice. Ironically I’ll be downvoted to hell for promoting equality, I expect.