• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    Valve had 71 peoples working in their steam division in 2021. 31 where admin so that leaves 40 people for all their hardware. I’m going to take a wild guess and say maybe 3 to 5 were working on things linux related.

    Edit: They had 79 in 2021 for Steam, and 41 for hardware

    I’d call that leveraging at that amount of people, for a company that brings in an estimated 6.5 billion a year, and the fact that most of the code was already there.

    Edit: They brought in 10 billion in 2021 (covid helped)

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad linux got a boost out of it but there’s no doubt in my mind he would have built a private OS if it could be done with 5 people. It was a bargain for him, it wasn’t a favor.

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      Just so we’re clear here – you pulled your original numbers out of nowhere, but made them oddly specific (71) to give the impression that you were citing an actual source.

      That is hilariously pathetic.

      And barely even matters since you’re ignoring 90% of the comment you replied to (financing and partnerships).

      Just really paints a picture of how boring, basic, and uninformed your opinion is, for all the cockiness you came in here with.

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      [citations needed]

      Get some sources, and stop drawing conclusions from no evidence.

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        https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=valve+number+of+employees+2021

        This isn’t hard to find. I don’t give sources when it’s literally in the first few links on Google.

        Edit: The actual quotes are below. I missed the mark on total number of steam employees by 9. They have 79 employees total for Steam. 71 or 79, it is still an insanely low number of employees when you take into account that:

        it is estimated that Steam generated more than 10 billion U.S. dollars in revenues in 2021

        This is from the statistica article that is the first link on Google. I moved my other links to the other comment so it would reply to the guy that couldn’t be bothered to even open them apparently.

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          Not a single one of those links says Valve had 71 people in their Steam division in 2021.

          Can’t even back your own claims. What a joke.

          Edit: HAHAHA you even provided a quote that contradicts the numbers you made up. This has to be a farce.

          Edit 2: BAHAHAHAHA NOW YOU REMOVED YOUR VERGE QUOTE BECAUSE YOU REALIZED IT PROVED YOU WERE MAKING UP NUMBERS.

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            One data point I found interesting: Valve peaked with its “Games” payroll spending in 2017 at $221 million (the company didn’t release any new games that year, but that spending could have gone toward supporting games like Dota 2 and developing new games like Artifact); by 2021, that was down to $192 million. Another: as of 2021, Valve employed just 79 people for Steam, which is one of the most influential gaming storefronts on the planet.

            “Hardware,” to my surprise, has been a relatively small part of the company, with just 41 employees paid a gross of more than $17 million in 2021.

            From the verge article

            Here’s the topline from 2021: Of those 336 employees, 79 directly worked on Steam, while a whopping 181 remained in the “Games” department⁠—pretty much the reverse of what I expected, given Steam’s importance to company profits and how rarely Valve releases new games. There were just 41 employees working on hardware development at that time

            From the PC gamer article right under.

            Literally the first two links after the statistica link (which also has it but you have to make an account), at least for me. Are you done being an idiot?

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              You:

              Valve had 71 peoples working in their steam division in 2021.

              Verge:

              as of 2021, Valve employed just 79 people for Steam

              Are you done being an idiot?

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          I missed the mark on total number of steam employees by 9. They have 79 employees total for Steam. 71 or 79, it is still an insanely low number

          LOL 79 - 71 = 8, not 9. Can’t even do basic math on your made up numbers.

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      Note that most people that valve pays to work on open source were preixisting maintainers and not actual employees, or employees of companies like Blue Systems

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      Completely ignores financial contributions.

      Disingenuous? Dumb? Who knows!?

      most of the code was already there

      AHAHAHAHAHA every developer in the thread is absolutely cackling at you right now.

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        I’ve never actually blocked someone on lemmy before, but you’re just following me in the thread and answering every one of my comments with mindless dribble lol. Grow up bro, learn to actually form an argument.

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          You are more than welcome to:

          • Educate yourself even a little bit
          • Leave your asinine takes in your brain

          If you want to keep spouting them off, go right ahead. But I’m going to mock you for it.

          Plug your ears if you’re incapable of upping your game.

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          This is hard because you’re (imo) very wrong and not being super nice about it, but null is being so rude i almost want to agree with you