- cross-posted to:
- loops@midwest.social
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I have an idea, let’s make a video sharing website and add no volume control at all!
Please keep in mind that it is a Tiktok replacement - i.e. meant for mobile devices, as the vertical nature suggests. And mobile devices already have volume controls? Hence that is a “mute” button, not a volume control, and while the project is still in its early stages, I doubt that they would add that functionality bc it would introduce tension between the user’s natural inclination to hit their device volume knob rather than have to use the embedded control.
On the other hand, I see SO MANY people criticizing the lack of that feature, perhaps they should make the video player work slightly differently when viewed from a desktop? But is that really what people want - wouldn’t people on a desktop still not enjoy watching content on a vertical axis that was meant for a mobile screen?
It’s probably a cost to benefit trade-off that they have to make hard decisions on, given how few people are willing to devote their time in return for no remuneration to this project. Honestly I’m surprised that so many people on Lemmy of all places aren’t receptive to such a FOSS project in its early stages yet coming along so quickly.
I hope you don’t feel that I’m picking on you, just sharing my thoughts. Please feel free to respond however you like:-).
Yeah it’s all good. But it is not a mobile app, it’s a ‘web app’ able to be shared on desktops, so it needs a volume control.
They could disable the volume slider on mobile devices I suppose, they can link to the actual volume of the device anyway, so it would just be an alternative to pressing the buttons.
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea for a feature. But somebody would have to implement it first, and there’s so much else to do as well, it may be awhile until they get around to it.
Volume doesn’t work on my loops app. I get no sound at all
Huh, I did not realize there were any apps. The web link works for me, in Firefox on Android. I wonder if you have a permissions problem and need to allow access to the speakers, but I am out of my element not having used iOS myself for a decade, though I wish you luck.🤞🍀
Why would i bother with player-specific volume controls when my OS’ volume controls are right there, easier to access and work the same across anything I’m doing?
Edit: being downvoted for asking a question, cool
Because adjusting the entire PC volume for one video is silly. I have the volume set how I like for everything, so having to adjust that everytime is annoying, when like every other video sharing site has a volume control and it remembers the level I set.
Fwiw I upvoted you, bc you added to the conversation. Lemmings do be cray cray tho. We are judgemental bishes for sho. :-P
I hear you. From what other people are saying elsewhere: they have their volume set for other things - perhaps Zoom calls at work - and don’t want to bother moving it in order to watch these videos. That’s sorta understandable.
But ofc next they’ll want to enable cookies to remember the volume setting across sessions, and then having added cookies, there must be a setting to only optionally store the cookies, and then there has to be the pop-up (pop-down?) banner announcement demanding that before you can interact with the page (well not really but it certainly does manage to call attention to itself) that you make a decision about whether you want to store cookies on that site or not.
I haven’t used a media player specific volume control for YEARS on my non-mobile devices. Perhaps bc I have a dedicated button on my keyboard devoted to volume up/down/mute so can adjust it at a moment’s notice?
It takes a LOT of effort to be all things to all people. And Loops is new, and looks to be meant for mobile, despite being delivered as a webpage. So if people accessing it via desktop wish that there more features, that is understandable, but it’s also understandable to me why those features aren’t there yet?
having added cookies, there must be a setting to only optionally store the cookies
Setting aside that this feature wouldn’t even need cookies, that’s not how it works. Functional cookies that aren’t used for tracking don’t need any user information or consent, even under GDPR.
I always love watching performers build up a song, and this is no exception.
Side note: Ugh. Loops doesn’t have an embed API (yet?). Just emailed them asking if they would consider adding the
og:videometadata to the page headers.I’m an amateur web dev, is that really all it takes with HTML?
More or less if you use JS to fetch the link and parse the meta tags in its header. Lemmy does that when you submit a post with a link, and it’ll pull the title, description, image, and video properties and include them with the post detail.
From there, it’s just a matter of detecting those and rendering them.
ogis shorthand for open graph, it’s a standard Facebook started for capturing page metadata to use in embedded previews and has caught on to wide adoption. It’s not an official HTML tag but it’s very ubiquitous today.
Going down New and saw this post after posting on your embeddeding test. Whatever you did, it worked!
I had to go to the Loops page and copy the video URL from there, unfortunately (e.g it wasn’t a standard embed).
That test was just to primarily see if the video would embed at all and not be blocked by CORS or something.
Hopefully Loops will put the video URL in the metadata to make things easy. If not, I may attempt a workaround
Super cool. I am hoping that Loops will be easily integrated into Lemmy at some point to where it shows on my feed as if I were on loops with the setting option to auto-start or not, and when I upvote they get the heart.
Btw Admiral Patrick has embedded Loops videos at https://tesseract.dubvee.org/c/loops@midwest.social. It’s a full embed of the video, though not full integration of Loops as you were saying - e.g. there’s no heart icon or comments, though he keeps adding more features to the embed like metadata display. Cool! 😎
Awesome. I’m going to try it out! Excited to see progress happen so fast
That’s what I’m hoping, but from what I’ve noticed, most other federated platforms (Mastodon, Wordpress, etc) all seem to use the user-follow paradigm which Lemmy still doesn’t support.
Supposedly PeerTube follows work, but I only ever seem to get the initial fetch (though I can comment and vote on them from here, and those show up on PeerTube).
Ya I am hoping one day (hopefully soon) I’ll be able to scroll through my Lemmy feed and see a Mastodon/microblogging post (which I occasionally see) from some people I am able to follow, while I scroll past a Loops video, and some Pixelfed content too. Just full integration both ways. That will be the tipping point for federation to pop off once that happens, because then it doesn’t matter which federated service you choose you will have access to all the social media content types.
In the cross-post someone gave a link to a male vocal version with Ryan Reynolds and a surprise guest:-).
That’s awesome!
Side note, is there any way to actually open the user’s profile on Loops? I’ve tried clicking everything on the page and can’t seem to open it.
I don’t have a Loops account myself - this is a repost - but perhaps it needs an account to work?
It’s also extremely early in its development so perhaps that is something that is not even implemented yet.:-)
It’s good to see Tiktok content leaking over there.
Yeah, I’m already sick of this song just from hearing it in the background of the tiktok videos my wife watches before bed.
I don’t know this artist. But I do know that auto tune is rampant among social media singers. I don’t have the software to see if it is being used here.
You don’t need software. This is definitely autotuned, but she is a good singer. One thing to listen for is that the pitch is so perfect it almost sounds like a synthesizer. You can’t fake the timbre of the voice though, which is why I say she’s a good singer.
You can’t fix terrible singing and it still sound human. Good but a few pennies off tune when layering? You bet it’ll work.
A lot of social media videos are tuned to flat 0 for each note and is the vocal equivalent of magazine covers photoshopped to “perfection”
It’s sad but that’s the standard of what people are used to hearing these days.
It’s a vicious cycle because people who are generally good singers will assume they’re terrible since they’re not as pitch perfect. Then, they’ll either never sing or modify their sound to perfection to compete
I found this video offering more informative and also this article. Kinda neat actually:-).
Where’s Will Ferrell?
Analog chorus pedal.
