• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I know little of Swedish politics. What defines someone has far right in Sweden?

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      Idk but probably the same as anywhere else. Racism, misogyny and a good portion of fear and hate for people that stick out in any way. Populism, simple thruths and wishing things were like at least a few decades ago.

      Topics that work every time are crime and immigration. And on top of those evergreens they also need about 1 current topic. For example hating on trans-people. (But I don’t know if it’s that in sweden.)

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        1 year ago

        Watch snabba cash on Netflix and you know where this comes from.

        The situation in the Swedish… Banlieus is well known across Europe. It’s not good to say the least.

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          Thanks for the recommendation, will watch. Judging by the first minutes before and after the trailer, it’s about gang crime and a ‘less than optimal’ integration effort into normal society? And she is going to bridge the gap in some (positive or presumably negative) way?

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            1 year ago

            Yes. It is about failed integration. Which leaves only one out for a lot of people. Ruthless gangs.

            How it ends for her? I’m not going to spoiler that!! :)

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        Well I’m confused. I googled it and it appears the Swedish democrats are the far right party of Sweden.

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          That is the name of the swedish far right party, yes. Don’t really see what’s confusing there? It’s a Sweden is for Swedes kind of deal.

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            Perspective. For example for a person from the USA ‘democratic party’ would be associated with more left (than the republican party).

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              A person should really be out of his mind to think that party names all around the world would follow the same “logic” as in their own country, specially with so generic names such as democrats and republicans

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              Even in the US the republicans used to be the more left party until the early 20th century. Id say the US terms are the least consistent with the rest of the world.

              In most European countries you’ll find the following parties with similiar names: Conservatives, Social Democrats, Greens, Liberals (usually just economics) Left/Socialists, Nationalists

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        Are you hinting that crime and unfiltered immigration is not an issue to rally behind? I lived in Sweden, and they have massive culture differences compared to the invasive species. Integration is none existent, and they are offering to pay families up to 25k to leave to their home countries. Like it or not, call it “racist” or not, it’s getting worst. And the worst part of all, most immigrants have extreme right wing views (conservative culture).

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            Agree. I think we shouldn’t engage with people with that kind of vocabulary on the internet. I’ve tried and it’s always wasted. And they felt the need to reply and in a few sentences inadvertently confirm every stereotype I listed… Okay, to be fair, misogyny is still missing.

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            I actually lived in those neighborhoods. Unlike 99% of the keyboard warriors here. Incompatible values. When you see a 3 yo girl wearing a hijab on a bus in sweden, it breaks my heart. Especially given the history behind the creating of the hijab rules. Most of you are ignorant and operate based on US politics in mind here, with absolute disregard of the situation in the EU. And btw, I am a EU migrant myself.

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      What (s)he said @rufus@discuss.tchncs.de

      Also, interestingly, the Swedish far-right party actually ranges from right to centre-left in the traditional sense of right/left wing politics. It’s just that far right has become synonymous with nationalist/populist.

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        I’m not a fan of the political spectrum commonly used for that reason. Stalin and Hitler had more in common than differences.

        Sweden strives for equality between genders and why I’m curious what the party stands for.

        In America if we said traditional values, typically it means a house wife.

        In Sweden I can’t imagine in meaning that same thing.