Greetings dear lemm.ee folks,
I have noticed an increasing number of lemm.ee users dissatisfied with Hexbearians. Reading through the modlogs on hexbear.net, I have observed truckloads of lemm.ee users being banned on hexbear.net, meaning that they won’t see any Hexbearian’s reply to them since Hexbearians aren’t able to see their comments. Despite this, I have yet to see the complaints from lemm.ee die down. May I politely ask, what is it that makes so many lemm.ee users hate us? And, how can we improve? Thanks!
I humbly request that all parties involved in the comments refrain from using slurs or name-calling to reduce the workload on mods and admins.
I’ll give you my own personal reason. I’ve had to literally change instance because I had the misfortune to disagree with some of them. It was a political conversation and the level of hate and trolling was the most toxic I’ve seen on Lemmy. The amount of messages and replies that attacked me and/or mocked me was enough for me to made me painfully aware overnight of what hexbear is simply because all the attacks/trolling was obviously from the same instance.
There was (and in my opinion still is) no point in seeing their answers since a great amount of their replies were just pictures or gifs of things like the butthole of a pig, literal shit and things of that caliber. Additionally, every posts or discussion that talks about them, inevitably draws their attention and they start to spam the same kind of stuff, relishing in the idea that they are hated, simply replying with things like “cope, seethe, rent free etc”.
I’ve also personally blocked all the instances from hexbear I could and a lot of users from there because I don’t come to Lemmy to be called names, harassed or to try to have conversations with trolls.
Personally, I can’t see anything that could help in change the culture when the people at the top AND the people at the bottom don’t seem to have any interest in changing. I definetly give props to people like you for trying to change it and I’m sorry you get bunched up with less pleasant users, but I’m here to look at photos of pets, talking about plants and books and other silly things that don’t deserve that level of hate. I certainly want nothing to do with it.
That was my personal view and experience. Hope it helped with your questions
What exactly was the disagreement? The context sort of matters here.
“Political disagreement” could be something mild or tame or it could also be like “I don’t like seeing homeless people or people on drugs and my proposed solutions are locking them up or worse”
Seeing your replies, I highly doubt anything anyone could say to you would not warrant a personal attack. You clearly like to think of yourself as someone who’s open and willing to debate since you wrote:
But you’re not. You’re just waiting in bad faith for extra ammunition to call people baby, fascist, or people unworthy of having opinions . You don’t even know my political leanings, but just because I’m not a part of your group, that’s reason enough for you (and other people of that instance) to pile on and mercilessly troll on other users.
I’ll stop interacting with people like you now. I moved to an instance which is defederated from hexbear for a reason, and I’m never been happier of my choice after talking to you and your friends. Have the day you all deserve.
Okay but you still didn’t answer what the disagreement was over?
What was the initial disagreement?
Why were you called a fascist? Almost everyone I know on hexbear who uses that term knows what it means and the implications of it. So why were you called that?
Show receipts lol
cope, seethe, rent free etc
I disagree with the characterization of Hexbear as being trolls. A bunch of people disagreeing with you in an argument isn’t trolling, if they were following you to other comments or sending you threatening DMs and shit now that’s a different story.
I never said people disagreeing with me is trolling. I’m quite aware of what trolling actually is. And I find interesting how that “people disagreeing with you is not trolling” line gets said so often by people of that instance. Trolling is trolling.
to save us all the time, we had this discussion a month ago, in which is OPs first interaction with our instance.
This post feels like bait tbh
just realized the irony of “save us all the time” and linking a 500 comment post. My bad, just meant to say this is old news and feels like cheap drama
I think this sums it up pretty well. We have a sort of organic party line and a tendency to back each other up when we see folks in the posting trenches.
Really it’s just solidarity forged out of years of being assailed on all sides by liberals and fascists.
If any critique I would level against our community is that occasionally this siege mentality can result in friendly fire, but most often those instances get cleared up pretty quickly since we also take self-crit very seriously.
Ayyy it me :)
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I’m sorry, but your post makes it sound like that’s what you’re saying. Either that or you consider pithy, dismissive responses (ie “cope and seethe” or PPB) to be trolling, which I also disagree with.
I know you won’t see this, but how are the pithy, dismissive responses not trolling? Those replies are exactly trolling.
I don’t know how to break it to you that like 99% of people think using pithy, dismissive responses is bonafide asshole behaviour, and that’s why nobody wants to talk to you guys.
Your “instance culture” is just being a bunch of assholes. This is why everyone defederates you.
What? Ppb, rent free stuff is absolutely trolling.
" In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages online or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others’ perception, thus acting as a bully or a provocateur. "
It’s literally trying to dismiss or detail the conversation, or illicit frustration out of the recipient. It’s used when they don’t care for the discussion.
Replying with your instance’s precious ppb is trolling, you fucking apologist.
But he didn’t lament disagreement. He was very clear about the stuff he thinks is trolling.
Why are you pretending you didn’t read his comment? It’s literally right there. We can all see it. Pictures of shit isn’t disagreement. It’s trolling.
Dude your neighbors do that shit to everyone constantly
You are a little baby
So, case in point…
@comr@hexbear.net
A perfect example of everything that people hate about the hexbear instance. Hope this answer your questions
lmao you got that mad about being called a little baby for being a little baby?
Grow thicker skin or learn to self crit ffs.
Mask is slipping
it was never on.
“The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains.”
The “mask” is not looking like 4chan shitters but sure, drop some quotes.
What mask?
We are honest people dunking on bad takes.
This is the best they can do
Thank you. After reading the comments on this thread, I think I kind of understand why so many people consider us obnoxious.
What do you mean “us”?
You joined three weeks ago, we all see that you’re a wrecker.
By “us,” I meant the userbase of hexbear.net. By the way, can we stop using account age as an indicator of how trustworthy an account is? I jumped to Hexbear 3 weeks ago when the defederation drama on my last instance unfolded.
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“They called me a baby on the internet” lmfao
I choose to interact with these types in a more interrogative manner. But I can’t blame you for choosing violence first.
I’m too old for this shit lol
Me too comrade. Me too.
how I defeated fascism with the power of love.
-by Luigi