• insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe
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    4 days ago

    You of all people posting this without comment. The only thing funnier (and sadder) is “cautious optimism about Trump”.

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      3 days ago

      Yeah ozma was one of the loudest mourh pieces on here against the dems and now he’s doing the shocked pikachu.

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      3 days ago

      Hi, it’s me. Was I not correct in the Dems replacing Biden? Did I not say Harris would lose? Even if the uncommitted 100% voted for Harris, she still would have lost.

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        2 days ago

        Wrong? Certainly not. But do you think spending the entire election demoralizing closest-to-the-left had no effect? (note: the iceberg of non-voters who aren’t directly counted in the uncommitted movement)

        This is not to say that the DNC strategy was great, but I am not sure by what metric your own was much better. Particularly as even from the beginning it seemed like a gamble, requiring Harris to win while also having notably high 3rd-candidate turnout.

        EDIT: Newer headlines make this even more obvious:

        ‘Very troubling’: Leader of ‘Abandon Harris’ movement now anxious about Trump appointees

        Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

        concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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        3 days ago

        Well, you had a shit ton of criticism for the Dems, but you seemed rather quiet about trump. Now you’re pushing cautious optimism? You really seem like a shill.

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          2 days ago

          Now you’re pushing cautious optimism?

          In OP’s defense, the description here is the subheading for the article. Thus me saying

          posting this without comment

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          2 days ago

          You know why I don’t criticize Trump?

          Because he’s Trump.

          The enemy has no reason to listen to your criticism. They’re the enemy. That’s one of the reasons they are the enemy.

          I’m going to criticize the people on my side that do everything they can to lose, and criticize them when they try to appeal to the enemies base to win by moving closer to the enemies position.

          Nothing about this is hard to understand, and I think the only reason you pretend not to is to lessen legitimate criticism against the people on your side that did all of that and then still lost

          The people responsible for that loss? The campaign consults and contractors that drove the decisions that lead to this loss got most of the astoundingly large amounts of money the Harris campaign raised, and are trying to make sure they get more by getting hired again.

          These are the people you are protecting with your arguments. It’s not LGBTQ people. It’s not minorities.

          You’re protecting the people who got paid large amounts of money to do one job, win the election. And they don’t want to be blamed for the loss.

          And thus you go around calling other people shills, which is just ironic.

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          3 days ago

          I hate Trump and the GOP. F them. I’ve said it plenty of times. I’ve also said plenty of times I’m not a Democrat. I’m far left.

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            2 days ago

            Well, your criticism of the GOP wasn’t as much as the criticism of them dems. Or at least tor didn’t show up as often.

            Not only that but you pushed third party shit right up until the election.

            You gonna start up with that again?