Summary

The House GOP’s new rules package aims to weaken minority party influence while advancing a pro-corporate agenda.

Key provisions include shielding the House speaker from bipartisan accountability and fast-tracking 12 GOP bills without allowing amendments, including measures to sanction the International Criminal Court (ICC) and protect fracking.

Democrats, led by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), criticized the package for ignoring economic and social issues like inflation and housing while prioritizing tax cuts for billionaires.

Republicans plan to offset these costs by slashing social programs, sparking warnings of further congressional dysfunction.

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      77,301,997 voted for Donald
      269,823,374 did not vote for him

      Edit: I forgot to subtract the 77m Donald voters from my all American adult voters number. So the second number is closer to 200 million. But still more than the Donald voters.

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        269,823,374 did not vote for him

        And of those, 108,403,374 were ineligible to vote, and 77,303,573 voted for Trump. The rest decided to stay home fully knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

        The majority of voters absolutely voted for Trump, or at the very least stepped aside and allowed others to return him to power.

        Either way, the result is the same. The American people voted for this, and they are about to get exactly what they voted for.

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          Why are any American voters ineligible? Even if they are, they are Americans who did not vote for this. They are not represented in government.

          A minority of Americans voted for this.

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            Why are any American voters ineligible? Even if they are, they are Americans who did not vote for this. They are not represented in government.

            • They might be under 18
            • They might not be citizens of the US
            • They might be felons who have lost their right to vote.
            • They may not have the mental capacity to make decisions, such as those with mental health or special needs issues.

            This is all spelled out in the Constitution. For better or worse, you can’t just ignore the parts of the Constitution you don’t like.

            A minority of Americans voted for this.

            By this logic, a minority of Americans voted for literally every vote in the history of the country. A minority of Americans also voted for Biden in 2020. Or Obama in 2008 and 2012. You can’t just use this as an excuse when you don’t like the results.

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              I may have down my math wrong, but I subtracted minors. Though there’s a case that 16-18 year olds should vote.

              I do think I forgot to subtract those in favor of Donald though, now that I think of it.

              If they’re not citizens, they are not Americans, right?

              Felons should be voting if they’re adult citizens.

              Is there an intelligence requirement for voting?

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                I may have down my math wrong, but I subtracted minors. Though there’s a case that 16-18 year olds should vote.

                There would still be plenty of non-voting children. And with 16-18 year olds, the case is there but it’s a case of being careful what you wish for. You open up a pandoras box of a bunch of willingly-uninformed voters (because most kids don’t care about politics), along with a bunch of teenagers who aren’t concerned about the consequences of their actions and would gladly vote for a shitty candidate “for the lulz”. Personally, I see it as a case where you’d be flooding the polls with so many uninformed voters and intentional trolls that the results would essentially be up to random chance. But I do agree that there’s a case to be made, even if I think it’s a terrible idea.

                Felons should be voting if they’re adult citizens.

                In principle, I agree with you. I’m just saying that this is stated in the Constitution and we cannot just ignore the parts of the Constitution we don’t like.

                Is there an intelligence requirement for voting?

                No. If Jim the meth-head and his sister/wife want to head down to the polls, they should absolutely have the right to do so. But I was talking about people who do not have the mental capacity to vote. People with severe Down Syndrome, for example. Non-verbal people with special needs. Dementia patients. Those with mental health disorders who think that the people of Jupiter are trying to read their thoughts by using laser beams disguised as rainbows.

                I would also include elderly people in nursing homes, hospitalized people, and people who are otherwise unable to exercise their right to vote because of forces outside of their control. They should have the right to vote but are often prevented from doing so, even if only because of simple things like staff members being unwilling to bring them to the polls.

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                  Felons are not prohibited from voting by the Constitution, though a lot of states have enacted their own bans (and the Constitution does leave managing elections to the states)

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        That sounds strange. Who did all the other people vote for? Why is that other person not going to be president with so many votes?

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      Trump did not get the majority of votes and if the house was not gerrymandered there would be no GOP majority there as well.

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          Because technically he got just shy of 50%, so while he got the highest vote count, he didn’t win a majority

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              AP shows him receiving 49.9%.

              Not to be rude, but it isn’t hard to find… And people made a big deal (too big, really) when he dropped below 50%.

              Anyway, just responding to why they said that he didn’t get the majority… It’s splitting hairs at this point, but I guess it makes some people feel better about what it means and what’s coming.

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                its rather harder than you think. I had a hard time getting vote totals instead of just electoral college and percentages that were not just based on top two. I clicked the link you provided and I don’t see it anywhere. just electoral college and vote totals but no percentage.

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                  You don’t see right under the blue/red electoral bar the vote totals for each with the percentages of total in parentheses next to them? Is that not showing for you?

                  I see it on Firefox Android in mobile mode and in desktop mode

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                    ah ok I do actually. It just so light on a white background and everything I use is high contrast so its nearly invisible to me. Would be nice if they showed that last few percent. At least an other category.

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        Gerrymandering has been a part of the system since the founding of the country. It shouldn’t exist, but everybody knows the rules of the game. The candidates all knew what they were getting into and knew that they’d have to break through all the gerrymandering in order to win.

        You can’t play the game knowing what the rules are, then blame the rules when you lose.

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          Go ahead and defend the system but don’t say the majority voted for this, because the rules expressly allow for minority rule.