Article does a very poor job of discussing precedence and likelihood that report does get release and when? Can Congress release it? Under what circumstances? Can Garland release it? How? Can Biden release it? How?
Need pressure on the systems that still exist to act before the 20th
Poor guy.
Imagine qualifying as a lawyer - spending years learning the legal system and full of hope and promise. You’re going to change the world and make it a better place. Your life is spent working your way up in seniority until you land the ultimate case - prosecuting an ex president for fraud and corruption. You expose the lies and illegal manipulation and prove them beyond reasonable doubt. And against all odds, you win! Best day ever. Everyone slapping your back and telling you what a great guy you are, so clever, and this piece of shit is really going to get his comeuppance.
And then, despite knowing that they’re voting for a criminal, half the voting people of your country still elect him into office, knowing full well that he’s going to continue being the same awful human being that you proved him in court to be.
Justice, the system you’ve spent your life believing in and working for is pushed aside. The sentence is reduced to nothing - less than a starving person would get for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their family.
How the fuck do you continue after that?
How can you believe in any system that lets that happen?
Obviously he couldn’t, and I respect that. I’d be heading into the woods to get away from everyone.
That’s why it’s bad when legal means fail to stop something that has to be stopped. First you get Bernie, then you get Jack Smith, then you get Luigi Mangioni.
We’d be happy to go back up the chain any time.
Just another example between the “legal” and the “justice” system…
What makes you think people who become DAs believe in the justice system? Many do it because they know it’s a path to become a judge or a politician. Many know how broken the system is before they enter.
Or maybe this just makes for a great origin-story for becoming an epic Batman-like vigilante. I’m waiting to see his next career take off…
How the fuck do you continue after that?
By fleeing the country if he has any sense because his life will be worth nothing in America in a few days.
I think that to stay sane in the legal system you have to satisfy yourself with knowing you’ve done your best even if you didn’t get the outcome you wanted.
Yes, but you also have to believe the system produces satisfactory outcomes often enough for the whole thing to be worth it. It looks increasingly like a system that does little more than punish poor people for being poor and foreign people for being foreign. I would certainly be reevaluating my life choices if I were a criminal lawyer.
I think that’s fairly hyperbolic.
Sure, the system is corrupt and there are a lot of high profile cases that just don’t seem to produce very “just” outcomes. That said, the vast majority of cases you don’t hear about are still producing reasonable outcomes.
Imagine spending your entire life licking the boots of the ruling class and then being surprised when they refuse to be held accountable.
Jacks a chump and always was, maybe this woke him up but I doubt we’ll see him in the streets with molotovs when the time comes. He’ll be hiding in his gated community looking for tasty boots to tongue.
This should be obvious but Jack Smith did more to stand up for justice than all your worthless shitposts combined.
Hahaha! Imagine simping for a federal prosecutor, he’s a canker sore on the cocksucking mouth of American government just like every other federal prosecutor. He did so much to stand up for justice! As evidenced by all the justice laying around!
How’s the boot leather taste chump, they let you sit at the adult table yet?
You seem fixated on bootlicking. Clearly you’re curious. Perhaps you should join a club and explore it instead of ranting about it here.
Say that again but this time put some stank on it.
I never thought I’d see the day where people were legitimately defending a federal prosecutor but here we are, I agree it stinks.
edit: not just defending but actively extolling and pretending serving the ruling class is some noble act, how many innocent people do you think jack was directly involved in prosecuting?
I don’t understand how you expect Trump to face consequences without a prosecutor at some step of the process.
What consequences?
Living in America right now is like being in a room with a dead body.
But one you can’t bang.
While also knowing the body will rise as a zombie on a set date.
Being in a room with someone you recently lost can be beautiful and healing. Living in America today is like being in a room with your own dead body and you mostly have no idea what’s happening.
Oh that would make a great short animated horror film… or indie game.
“Dead inside?” “The company I keep.”
Perimortus: reflection of a life
10/10 would buy on steam for $17.99 after watching the teaser trailer.
And the red hats rejoiced, for they are stupid fascists.
I like that one guy browsing Lemmy, down voting anti Maga stuff.
“One”? There’s a lot of people here who are pro trump. They tend to get downvoted quick but let’s not pretend this is some leftist utopia.
You are right, but you do see it in a lot of these political threads - every(or most) expressly anti-R or anti-Trump comment with just one (sometimes two) downvotes, but no one actually dissenting. It’s weirdly consistent and predictable.
Like there’s one guy just laughing to himself that he’s owning the libs every time he clicks that downvote button.
…and if he wants to stay out of prison and/or live he might want to get the fuck out of the USA pronto after resigning.
Absolutely. He needs to leave immediately. Retaliation is guaranteed.
Counterpoint: if he becomes a political prisoner, a ton of libs get radicalized
Do you know how many times I’ve heard, “if X happens, it will radicalize the people and they will take to the streets” and then X happens and it doesn’t?
Because I’ll give you one huge as fuck reminder: the end of Roe v. Wade.
Women across the country became second-class citizens overnight and it sure didn’t bring about any sort of glorious revolution.
Expecting Americans to get radicalized by him getting arrested compared to that seems a bit silly to me.
“But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.”
― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45
Unfortunately there’s a limit to ‘‘rilled up’’ for intelligent people, because eventually you just stop engaging with politics because you need to survive and paying attention is fucking exhausting.
When you live paycheck-to-paycheck, as nearly half of Americans do, taking to the streets means possibly starving your kids.
I don’t know if this is by design, but it sure as hell helps people in power.
Eh I’m open to getting a little stupid. Hmu
How stupid are we talking
I feel bad that I feel like this
Often fighting is the smartest thing to do. Not fighting is not a sign of intelligence.
Yes. A rush and a push and the land that we stand on is ours. But it’s FUCKING EXHAUSTING to try and get everyone else to show up and care. They hardly ever will. I put a lot of effort into the Sanders campaign. Fuck tons of engagement and groundswell, all the buzz was buzzing. Those fucks NEVER SHOWED UP TO VOTE ON VOTE DAY!! I don’t know how or why or have any analysis to point to. It’s just fucking exhausting.
What a silly thing to say. In some very rare instances, that most people will never encounter in their lives, fighting is the smartest thing to do. In all other cases it’s probably the dumbest thing to do.
I would say most people had a bully attempt to see if they can bully them in school or other places. And those who fought back made it clear bullying them is costly and got peace. Those who gave in got years of harassment.
Going out of your way to use violence is often stupid, or having it as your only resort to handle a conflict. But categorically excluding it is often very stupid and at best a sign of an privileged life, where the privileges acted as a shield from violence.
I think this depends on how “fighting” is defined. “Fighting the system” can be done in all sorts of ways, many of them not involving anything violent or even illegal. I think what Saleh is saying is that people who have no urge to get engaged are being fools.
“Radicalized libs” is an oxymoron. “Radicalized leftists,” sure, but “libs” are centrist (if not center-right) by definition.
Edit: I should’ve said “moderate” rather than “centrist,” as my point was more about this sort of thing than pinning down exactly where libs fit on the political spectrum.
might want to get the fuck out of the USA pronto
Probably not a bad idea in general.
This is true, and incredibly fucked up. Have to flee for pursuing facts and attempting to enforce the rule of law.
That’s fascism for you. That’s where the US is headed
That honestly goes for anyone who’s a protected minority
Oh it goes for so much more than just that, although those are obviously the most at risk. The minority groups are just who they’ll come after first so we better stand by them when it happens.
For his own safety he should probably leave the country
Shit, we all should.
And I wish I could take anyone who wanted to come with me. I’m sorry.
I always wanted to live abroad, but not like this. Definitely not like this.
All I can say is I sincerely hope that my pessimism is shown to be completely misguided. But I doubt it is.
Should he have stayed and made them fire him?
Then he wouldn’t have got a pension I believe if he is fired
He’d be lucky to just be fired.
There could be firing involved, or maybe a rope.
No.
A job well done…?
