Andrew Wimmer was handcuffed and taken to jail on January 22, 2003 because he refused to protest in a ““designated protest zone”” that was out of sight of the President as well as local and national TV news cameras.
A woman, armed with a ““We Love You Bush”” sign showed up at the same corner shortly after Wimmer’s arrest. Wimmer asked the police if they were going to arrest her if she didn’t move and they said, ““no.”” The police also allegedly blocked the national press camera crews and an AP reporter from approaching the protest zone to do reporting.
That’s a far cry from how china suppresses protests. And really a small individual example. Overall there’s a clear freedom of expression and civil protest in the US. The same absolutely cannot be said about china.
Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn’t matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.
China, but also the PRC hasn’t been in a war in like 50+ years. Meanwhile the US killed a million innocent people in Iraq, and goes after whistleblowers like Assange, Snowden, and Manning for speaking out about its war crimes. And the Obama administration prosecuted a record number of whistleblowers, and had a zero tolerance policy towards them.
It wasn’t a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist / free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalisation, and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times death count went from 2600, to many thousands, to 8000, to tens of thousands. In reality only around ~200 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled, in smaller clashes outside the square. The on-scene New York Times reporter disavowed the article, especially about machine-gunning of protesters. A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department, confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
To be fair I mainly wanted to jokingly tell the commentator that both china and the us are guilty of this, so I just mentioned a third country that I thought was decent. Thanks for educating :)
Which country allows their citizens to openly speak about and protest said war crimes?
https://www.aclu.org/documents/dissent-forced-be-out-sight-and-out-mind
That’s a far cry from how china suppresses protests. And really a small individual example. Overall there’s a clear freedom of expression and civil protest in the US. The same absolutely cannot be said about china.
I love how people just say this. Like you know lol
Can you draw the chinese leader as Winnie the pooh in China without repercussions? I can do it to my leader where I’m at.
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Americans have jesters privilege. We can say anything we want as long as it doesn’t matter. As soon as the government thinks it might matter, they have a million tools to silence you.
Facts right…
I would posit you can say anything but the truth that hurts profits or US interests otherwise…
Like calling out Israel 🤡
Dozens of pro-Palestinian protesters arrested outside New York Stock Exchange
Did they bring in some tanks as well? Or if they did are we allowed to talk about it?
China, but also the PRC hasn’t been in a war in like 50+ years. Meanwhile the US killed a million innocent people in Iraq, and goes after whistleblowers like Assange, Snowden, and Manning for speaking out about its war crimes. And the Obama administration prosecuted a record number of whistleblowers, and had a zero tolerance policy towards them.
Try to talk about the Tiananmen Square in China, Monsieur Jacques I.
“haha if you say tiananmen square in a league of legends match the Chinese get banned” is your source
What about the Tiananmen square massacre?
That vimeo link of the spanish tv crew coverage doesn’t seem to work for me. Do you happen to have any mirror of it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtopY3pcZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMtopY3pcZs
@dessalines@lemmy.ml, update your link for #4.
Done, thx.
But the tank
Checkmate commies
Well, soon, I’m not sure
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-administration-may-crack-palestinian-protest-movement-rcna179979
Well the US doesn’t. China is hard to say because it’s not constantly at war
Like, the Netherlands or something maybe?
https://youtube.com/shorts/_XIyPwutlis
And the top comment on that video is defending the police, fascism has it’s hold in many places
The removed of fascism is always in heat
lol .ml censoring your word here is super apropos
“Fascism is when you have to infer a word from context to avoid being called slurs” (Albert Fascism, creator of the .ml TLD
Dang Albert fascism and his choice selection of english
Thanks for posting, didn’t know about that!
To be fair I mainly wanted to jokingly tell the commentator that both china and the us are guilty of this, so I just mentioned a third country that I thought was decent. Thanks for educating :)
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