• Etterra
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    5 hours ago

    Good on ya fellas. Don’t allow our Orange Idiot fuck with you.

  • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    This is the best preventative measure they can do for now. Musk and other actors can dump massive amounts of money into elections to sway them and many of these democracies haven’t been challenged from outside like this before.

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    18 hours ago

    Foreign political funding should be banned everywhere by default. It makes no sense to let foreign interests muck about in your domestic policy.

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      I agree in principle, but in practice it’s tricky. You must have courts that are strong enough to throw out election results if foreign interference can be proven. This has recently happened in Romania, but there are also many examples in which these laws were meaningless. The US is the obvious case where the 2016 election result should have been thrown out, but nothing happened. For the Brexit vote I think some pretty meaningless fines were handed out.

      Another question is what should happen with foreign interference that is not financial in nature. For instance, Musk speaking at AFD, or the Meta algorithms pushing political content.

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      18 hours ago

      Even local political funding should be banned. Elections should be funded by the state with each candidate getting the same amount of exposure.

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        I’m okay with funding from constituents, with strict caps on amounts. That way people who have lots of public support get more funding, but a wealthy person can’t outspend someone else.

        No funding from corporations, and no anonymous funding.

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          17 hours ago

          We already have too many narcissistic leaders everywhere because they can be superficially charming and build up loads of useful connections. It makes sense to have a cut-off for who gets funding at all, but they should all get the same amount of exposure.

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        16 hours ago

        Andrew Yang has a great term for this:

        Democracy Dollars

        Also his term for UBI:

        Freedom Dividend

        Great naming lol. Like who could hate something called “Freedom Dividend” and “Democracy Dollars” 😅 (Magats would hate it, they hate democracy)

        Other Policies, if you’re interested: https://2020.yang2020.com/policies/?tab=all

        If ranked choice was a thing, I’d probably rank Yang #1, Bernie #2. (Since Yang would probabky never get elected, so I might as well give him the #1 ranking, his ideas are cool)

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          I used to be interested in the things Andrew Yang had to say back in 2020, especially with regard to UBI, but I’m really put off by him now. His whole schtick is a libertarian technocratic utopian fantasy. The expansion of welfare while simultaneously sucking up to oligarchs is just a way to preserve the capitalist status quo. He wants to breathe new life into the machine that’s exploiting us and destroying the planet.

          His vision for the future is basically just the UN as depicted in The Expanse.

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          8 hours ago

          How? You get a certain amount of funds to be spent on specific regulated activities if you pass a threshold of signatures.

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            Depends on which current system you mean. I’m Canadian, and while it’s not perfect, it’s a pretty good system.

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    I don’t think tanks, missiles and boots on the ground cares too much about elections! Trump is a facist and he’ll use the American empire military and economic force to bend other nations to his will!

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      I really do think that a war of bald faced imperial oligarchic aggression would trigger the collapse of the union.

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      9 hours ago

      If he decides to go to war on multiple fronts with no one backing him up, I don’t think it will go well for him.

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      At least Germany already does it. On the federal level the maximum donation for non-EU citizens/corporations is 1000 Euro, which is why the Bundestag is investigating Musk giving Weidel a platform as if you were to buy that kind of reach you’d pay way more than 1k. It’s generally the parties which get fined for accepting. Donations over 10k must be publicised, over I think 35k immediately. State law is generally similar.

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      It’s not a bad plan in general, really. Maybe the US should look into and rectify issues that may already exist around political funding.