there’s too many comments and posts for me to view all of them, so the way that we can deal with them is you, the glorious people of 196 reporting them as you see them.

  • Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I support the anti-aurhoritarian backbone of this, but it would probably be more helpful to focus on the content we want to avoid rather than assuming people will all have the same idea of what being a “tankie” entails. Not loving having dark violent imagery on my feed either but oh well.

  • MochiGamer@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    1 year ago

    People get mad at “tankies” (communists who aren’t blanketly anti-authoritarian and support AES nations who have Proletarian authoritarianism/DOTP(to a degree at least)) for one of two things, either imagined points they may have based upon either hyperbole, edge cases, or assumptions. Or the other reason is they challenge the world view of “anti-authoritarian” community members who then decry they should be removed… via authoritarianism.

    Showing it’s ok when the “leftists/anarchists/liberals” do the authoritarianism for when their feelings are hurt but magically are supposedly anti-authoritarianism elsewhere. It’s all aesthetics and working off of your propagandized experiences and assumptions. You can personally block people/communities you dislike if your worldview is that fragile, or (as you’re advocating for) engage in what you decry and remove every opinion that challenges yours. This isn’t like yelling wolf for seeing nazis, nobody is actively calling for genocide or erasure around here and if they are advocating it then yes that can be problematic. It’s made all the worse by taking lies like (all tankies support putin unconditionally) and running with it till the birds come home to roost.

    Interestingly the “Tankies” all haven’t defederated from LGBT or other diverse communities(despite being claimed to be just like the nazis) nor have they actively advocated to silence entire communities based upon differing worldviews. It’s good we’re growing, we can expand the scope of what we see or we can be in denial of anything that changes their worldview like a bunch of children who are being told Santa isn’t real! C’mon people, get real this is FOSS and we can do better than to do a bunch of infighting, this isn’t reddit anymore, we’re supposed to be a community(federation) here.

    • breadsmasher@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      From wikipedia

      Tankie is a pejorative label for communists, particularly Stalinists, who support the authoritarian tendencies of Marxism–Leninism or, more generally, authoritarian states associated with Marxism–Leninism in history. The term was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

    • MelissaLiberty@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 year ago

      People that support the more authoritarian tendencies of historical Marxist-Leninist states (ie socialism). However, it’s mostly used as an insulting word for communist from uninformed liberals who then (like this idiotic post) compare them to literal nazis and the likes.

      • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Gross misuse of IE considering socialism is literally a less extreme version of communism.

        Marxist-Leninist was literally communism where in their own words it was “a dictatorship of the proletariat”. Where Marx and Engels literally dismissed socialism as “a middle class movment of quacks.” In Marx’s outline of socialism, it literally disregards it as “capitalism still exists to a lesser degree.” ML-communism is authoritarian and completely different that most forms of socialism as well as “pure” communism.

        Socialism, on the other hand has either state-controlled or private-but-worker-controlled economy with a democratically elected government and not necessarily single party. It was an entirely other school of people and ideas. China is not socialism as their government is not elected, but appointed by a ruling party. It is a statist-oligarchy plain and simple.

        Socialism is constantly misused. Stalin and hell, the Nazis called themselves socialist even though they weren’t at all. George Orwell actually said that Marxist-Leninist communism has circles around and is on the right again.